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The Haravilliers Case: One of the Most Credible First-Encounter Stories or A CE3K?
I attempted to get permission from the persons running the web site that gave full details. I have received no response. Anyway I would like to thank them for presenting the case which took me a few days to translate so things may not be as wonderfully accurate (language wise) as I would like. Here is a link to their site.
https://rr0.org/science/crypto/ufo/enquete/dossier/Haravilliers/
Dossiers Secrets also presented details including what Mr. D claims happened aboard the UFO and the link is
http://dossiers.secrets.free.fr/ovni/rencontre.haravilliers.htm
Who is “Mr D”?
Mr. D. (anonymity was requested) was a retired from a management position in the construction of high-security facilities (similar to one in Taverny ). He was described as being an “elegant grandfather” who lived simply and comfortably, taking great care of his grandchildren and his family. He was a simple and discreet man and not very talkative, naturally a bit of a solitary man. He did not read UFO magazines and regards the phenomenon, which he knows about from "hearsay" (two members of his family have witnessed UFOs) with a certain distance. He has never been involved in any research or activity concerning the phenomenon.
Mr. D. also has several blood abnormalities, but they seem to date back to his adolescence, at the very least, and were identified around the age of 20. His white blood cell count never seems to be below 18,000, which is a high number. In addition, he has polycythemia vera (PV is a rare blood cancer where the bone marrow produces too many red blood cells, potentially leading to thicker blood and increased risk of blood clots and other complications). PV did not seem to have had any consequences on his health, which seems quite flourishing. He does not exclude having undergone a first contact in his youth, but has no memory of it, and it seems unlikely to him. The reason for stating this becomes clear further on.
Apart from the feeling he always had of being "different" and waiting for a particular event, he had also long been convinced of having lived two previous lives. One was in a country bordering the Mediterranean, and the other in a small village in central France (which he had located on a map), this last life having materialized in a kind of small manor house in poor condition, often bordered by the mists of a small river. He has never been to this village, but intends to go there . He thinks he lived there around the year 1830.
The UFO (in red) and the witnesses (in blue) are heading towards each other
On the day in question Mr. D. was invited to a hunt meeting in the parking lot of La guibarderie, in the hamlet named Le Ruel , near the commune of Haravilliers (canton of Marines, Val-d'Oise). It was the early hours (pprox 0730hrs) of Saturday, 10th January, 1998. It was dak and the friend they supposed to meet was driving a white turbo-diesel Mercedes. When he arrives at the parking lot (map -red arrow) he parked and then saw an object fly over him: the Mercedes was literally bathed in a multitude of beams of the same three colours. As it hovered above him, the object created lighting effects, and "pools" of colour slide onto his clothes through his transparent sunroof. The witness believes (the account states “senses”) that these light sources are part of the phenomenon's propulsion system.
Towards the centre of the object was a kind of inverted octagonal turret seeming to protrude about 1 m from the "ship." The entire structure of the thing appeared with great clarity. In the centre of this octagon, a slightly lighter gray, was a large hollow, circular area, with a diameter of about 6 m. Despite its location, the witness is sure that it is not a nozzle: is a kind of door, he was sure of this.
The witness feels that these "holes" are the seat of powerful searchlights. Isolated in his Mercedes, he sees them converging on his car - about this testimony, we know only from Mr D. Then the object moved towards the valley and the witness felt as if the object was going to crash at which point he lost consciousness.
Meanwhile, slowly arriving along Rue des Terres Saint Denis, Mr. D.'s metallic gray, Peugeot 306 and its four occupants note the quality of the local weather; the sky appears clear and starry. Not a hint of mist anywhere. Behind Mr. D’s car a Xantia had a single occupant and his dog who was also invited to the meet.
The cars arrive at the intersection with the CD 188 and continue their route towards the meeting place, heading northwest. After a few turns, in the distance, an illuminated area appears above the horizon. It is such an unusual and marvellous spectacle that no one says anything but just looks at the outpouring of light. Mr. D. experiences a curious impression: he feels concerned by this thing and he feels this phenomenon was intended for him. He heads towards the enormous and motionless thing in front of them and he begins to be able to see detail with great precision: the colours emitted, the shape of the projectors, which he compares to powerful lighting ramps, about 5 m by 3 , like those seen in stadiums, but coloured: green, red and yellow. Mr. D. does not stop his vehicle and continues to drive towards the object; arriving at the edge of the "disc", he can see even greater detail from the left side of his car. The object, approximately 45 m in diameter, is still motionless. The car's engine does not stop.
The object gives Mr. D the impression of having a mass of several thousand tons. He also feels that this "thing" is literally at a standstill (map - blue arrow), and that all its energy is at a minimum, just enough to keep it stationary. For a brief moment, a flood of acute sensations goes through his mind: he feels a sense of sadness in the environment of this strange, greyish object. The thing is less than 10 m from the ground according to the witness. He has the strange sensation that his brain is emptying; no more thought, no more reflexes, he describes himself as an empty shell.
At the same time a kind of irresistible and uncontrolled curiosity pushes him to lower the window of his vehicle, on the driver's side, to better see the underside of the thing which, although totally devoid of light at that moment - apart perhaps from the reflection of spaced streetlights still lit along the road – “then appears to him with a host of details of perfect clarity, as if the phenomenon were slightly lit from the outside, enough so that everything could be seen”. Like the other two witnesses in the vehicle, he sees a round shape. Leaning out of the open window, he sees from below a flat and grey shape, regularly dotted with a kind of dark openings one meter in diameter”.
There is no audible noise and no vibration of the air detected. There is an extraordinary calm as Mr. D no longer even hears the engine of his car running. Now more than ever he gets the feeling of sadness that seems to “inhabit this thing and its immediate surroundings”. The car is still moving, slowly, all headlights on, but nothing seems to happen. It was at this moment that the four occupants of the car, with the edge of the flying disc directly above their vehicle, “blacked out”: no one, remembers anything.
Mr. D regains consciousness: What happened? Where is he? He does note that about 3 minutes have passed:
“He doesn't remember anything. He has the feeling that 3 minutes have passed, but no proof. The witness now knows where he is, he knows this route perfectly, he knows the distances perfectly, and this leads him to this assessment of this period of missing time: he is at the exit of the parking lot where he has a meeting with his friend. The car is well aligned on the path, the engine is running, the thing has completely disappeared. The 4 occupants have regained consciousness: a distance of 1.2 km has been covered by their car. How?”
The next part of the report notes about this:
“Total incomprehension, still to this day. Only one certainty then imposes itself for the witness: he was no longer able to drive his car, he had lost his consciousness, he had been emptied of everything. But what on earth happened?”
But now fully aware Mr. D drove into the parking area and once stopped their friend left his Mercedes and quickly described to them the incredible thing that flew over him. He was treated to all the luminous paraphernalia of the phenomenon: identical in description, approximately 20 m above the ground. He reported how the light beams converged on the ground and even completely illuminated his car for a moment. This witness did not feel any of the emotions recorded by Mr. D. His brain was apparently not crossed by any particular thought, Mr. D.'s impression is that his friend was flown over "by accident": he was not concerned by the intentions of the phenomenon (this witness had not been questioned).
The six friends then quickly moved out of the parking lot to meet up with the 25 other people involved in the meet. It is strange but none-the-less a fact, that apparently none of them have anything to say about what they had witnessed. Mr. D. will only really emerge from his mental fog around 0900hrs and then he scolded himself for not having stopped to better observe the phenomenon.
At 1200hrs all the participants in this hunting meet had a snack brought by a caterer. Conversations flow well on the usual topics, but no one mentions the sighting earlier that morning. It is as if the witnesses have forgotten what they saw.
According to the report:
“The next day, Mr. D. said to himself "I was in a world that wasn't mine." For several days, no one among the five witnesses listed spoke about what they had seen. It took Mr. D. almost a month to feel the need to understand what had happened to him”.
For Mr. D., the experience was so powerful that keeping it to himself was very difficult and yet talking about it to anyone was just as difficult, but “he still tries to experience it, also aware that his testimony can serve the cause of science, as well as the understanding of these still unexplained phenomena”. For this reason Mr. D. obtained a copy of a specialist magazine on UFOs, in which he found the contact details of the International UFO Data Bank . He called the association, which subsequently asked Gérard Deforge one of its members, to investigate and record the testimony. The latter concluded with an agreement with the witness that the names of those involved will not be disclosed - they are all people with high professional responsibilities - and Deforge will publish the interview under his own name.
On the afternoon of Thursday, 5th March, Deforge Gérard and Mr. D. talked at the latter's home for 5 hours. Deforge notices a brown stain on the witness’ face, about 10 cm2.
Mr. D. says he doesn't understand what's happening to him. After a very long moment of hesitation, he says he feels destabilized, he who was steeped in rationality and technical certainties. Looking at Deforge Gérard, he declares: “They” are rude, but not too mean. This strange sentence becomes clearer when Mr. D. reveals some of the consequences of his observation: whether day or night, thoughts come to him that are “not his own” -perhaps at the rhythm of the thing's (UFO) approach or distance, he says. The thoughts he receives are like television news flashes , coming without warning, and leaving just the same. These ideas are of all kinds: messages about the future of humanity - not very cheerful: a catastrophe would threaten us, the encounter with a large asteroid perhaps , and snippets of scientific information:
At one point he asked Deforge “Do you know about tachyons? I've never heard of this, I didn't even think to look it up in an encyclopedia to see if it exists “. Deforge replied that he was far from being a specialist, but that he seemed to remember, that tachyons are subatomic particles that had been brought to light fairly recently in cyclotrons, but that he doesn't remember their precise characteristics.
Mr. D responded “Well, it would seem that tachyons are particles, indeed, but one of their essential characteristics is that they are capable of moving at a speed greater than that of light “.
And Mr. D. from another “book” of these ideas that he receives:
“The universe would really be inhabited in all things by a binary logic. Each one governed by the more or the less. For example, what I saw, this phenomenon, I feel it as an expression of a negative entity: cold lights, sadness, dark color of the ship, silences. This ship precisely, let's talk about it again: at the moment when it flew over me, and when it stole those 3 minutes that are missing from my schedule, from my life. They implanted a kind of electronic microchip in my brain, whose function I clearly identify today. I have only had this certainty in the last few days, I was looking for an explanation for everything that happens to me, it is the only explanation that imposes itself on me. So this function is to serve as a relay between them and me, it is a system that allows them to inject me with thoughts that were never mine. And that's why I find them... rude! But not too mean. Because if they had been mean, they could have done anything they wanted to us at that moment, they were the Force, and they had paralyzed us”.
The head of the “Entity” remembered by Mr. D.
He continued:
“Another thing about this ship: in the thoughts and images that impose themselves on me, there is a sort of face, which seems as if embedded in me, in an almost obsessive way. It is a shape, a sort of knight's helmet, and I have represented it for you. I also give you this drawing, with the details that are required of me. These entities were perhaps in the ship. I see them like this. Perhaps I will have the strength one day to give my consent to specialists in whom I have complete confidence, to proceed with a hypnotic regression that could help me to find what I experienced during these 3 minutes.
“You see, for me, these armoured entities were themselves devoid of thought, of life: they were manipulated to do a certain job. The eye sockets, I see them empty. This face, I see it very dark too, like the rest. Everything is metal, artificial and without soul or conscience. What strikes me most is this sort of row of teeth. But they aren't teeth. They're plates regularly separated by a thin groove, with a horizontal separator. It's a device, it's very white. A device for communicating, sounds perhaps, waves, I don't know. It's something that can vibrate to emit, to communicate. This vision of this widely deployed row makes me very uncomfortable, that's all I can say. I would have liked to see the start-up of this machine, the implementation of its formidable power, a formidable energy.
“So, after a month, I started to pull myself together. I wanted to do a lot of checking. First, I wanted to draw what I had seen. I am very demanding of myself. I was never satisfied with my representations. So, I looked in the yellow pages of the phone book for contact details of drawing artists in the region, in Grisy-les-Plâtres. I called Grisy-les-Plâtres: the artist clearly didn't take me seriously”.
In fact the artist contacted, a world-renowned poster artist whose anonymity will remain, is indeed in the "yellow pages." It turns out he is an artist known to Deforge, whose parents have been friends with him for 50 years. Deforge called the artist: the wife vaguely remembers the Mr. D phone call. Her artist husband remembers it less precisely: he often receives spontaneous requests by phone, to which he systematically responds negatively. His works have a high market value; they are his livelihood. He only draws and paints what he considers to be within his skills, and according to his own choices exclusively.
Mr. D continued:
“So, I understood that no one would take me seriously, I decided to do everything I could to elucidate this encounter as best I could, all by myself. It was absolutely necessary that I represent what I had seen, I had all the details imprinted in my head. I decided to take intensive drawing lessons, until I was satisfied with my representations. I will give you the result of this work later - simply, on document 1, where my vehicle is correctly represented to scale, the machine whose lower headlights are off, is represented a little high. This allows all the necessary details to be represented. The truth, on this image, is that the phenomenon, at this moment, was really at ten meters of altitude, no more, as I already said earlier.
“I didn't stop there: I bought specialist magazines. That's how I got in touch with your organization. I made a number of other checks. I called the Marines gendarmerie, the control tower at Cormeilles-en-Vexin airfield, the Pontoise gendarmerie, the Auvers-sur-Oise gendarmerie, the Grisy town hall, and the Haravilliers town hall. No one saw or heard anything, I'm told.
“However, an anecdote... (note all these points were being verified by the investigator). So here is the anecdote: In the representation of the trajectory of the craft, I noticed that it had flown over the house of the Mayor of Haravilliers. I questioned the Mayor of Haravilliers, and this is what he told me:
“ ‘I have one habit that I never break: I'm an early riser, really.6, it's certain, I'm already up, every day, without exception. Well, this January 10th, I don't know what happened to me, but I slept like a log. And it really wasn't the day, I had an important meeting at the town hall that morning, I almost was late. That's what happened to me’.
“I also took other initiatives: I don't know why, more than ever, I asked myself a lot of questions about the Franck Fontaine affair, which had hit the headlines at the time, an affair which had interested me a lot. After the events of January 10, I felt the desire to go to Saint Ouen l'Aumône, to meet people who knew Franck Fontaine , I wanted to have news of him, to try to perhaps have new information on this incredible story, which has always left me perplexed. Well, believe it or not, do you know who is the person with whom I started chatting when I arrived in Saint Ouen l'Aumône? Well, Franck Fontaine 's own father . He seems completely devastated, this man. He doesn't even have news of his son anymore. They are apparently broken people. I found this meeting very curious.
“I can't tell you much more; you know almost as much as I do now. I'm going on vacation. I need to rest. I agree that we can meet again in May. I'll correct your report. I understand that you want to verify a number of things. This is certainly not an ordinary story. I don't think the other witnesses will have any difficulty meeting with you. But please, scrupulously respect our anonymity. I live in peace; I want to be left alone. If I don't remain anonymous, I won't be left alone; it's impossible.”
I really need to make it very clear that the above Franck Fontaine UFO abduction reference from someone in the 1990s is not just confusing but can be described as utter bilge/ To explain why….
The case is known as the Cergy-Pontoise Hoax began with the report of what was claimed as a UFO abduction and climaxed with one of the witnesses of the alleged abduction “channelling” messages from the extraterrestrials whom he claimed were involved in the taking of his friend. Sounds dubious from the outset and from what I recall the French Gendarmerie were not too convinced,
On the morning of the 26th November, 1979, Jean-Pierre Prevost of the Paris suburb of Pont-oise called the police to report that his friend Franck Fontaine had been abducted by aliens. According to the story, the pair, along with two other men, were preparing to drive to a nearby town to sell clothes at an open-air market. Fontaine, their driver, sat inside the car while the others went to gather their stock. A UFO then suddenly appeared and as the men watched Fontaine was taken from the car and the UFO then sped away.
Fontaine reappeared a week later. He claimed to remember little of what had happened just that he fell asleep at the wheel of the car and woke up in a cabbage field, unaware that a week had passed. After this the police investigation of the incident intensified and Groupe d'Etudes des Phénomènes Aérospatieux Non Indentifiés (GEPAN), France's main UFO investigation organization, joined the search for the truth. After interviewing the principals several times and looking for any collaborating evidence, GEPAN concluded that the incident was without any value in furthering knowledge of UFOs –this was a polite way of saying that they had concluded that it was a hoax.
However, ss the story continued to unfold, flying saucer enthusiast Jimmy Guieu published a book-length account of the story entitled (in French) Contacts OVNI Cergy-Pontiose. Guieu, convinced of the truth of the story and contended that the target of the UFOs was not Fontaine, but Prevost, who had begun to channel messages from the abductors whom he referred to as “intelligences from the beyond”. Shortly after Prevost published a book, The Great Contact, that centered on the messages he had received, primarily from one Haurrio, about the deteriorating state of Earth life. He went on to found a publishing house and gather a following of people attracted to the messages ‘from’ outer space. This endeavour proved singularly unsuccessful. No group emerged and the publishing venture closed, leaving him with a heavy debt.
Meanwhile, the ‘abductee’ had remained fairly low key but, in 1983, Prevost finally confessed to the hoax when he confided to a French reporter that he had organized the event and hid Fontaine in a friend's apartment for the week of the supposed abduction. His motivation had been to attempt to attract attention to his channelled messages and to assist in building a modern religion based on (fake) extraterrestrials.
Therefore, Mr. D’s claim of having gone to look into the case and talking to the father of the ‘still missing’ alleged abductee raises a lot of questions since it was undeniably a hoax. I will come back to this further on.
Mr. D was convinced that he was still under control from “somewhere”, and so tried to locate the place on his body where there might be “a battery or some sort of computer chip”. In the middle of March, 1998, he found two blue spots on the inside of his left big toe (shown to Deforge and his wife, when they were guests at his home), and asked a radiologist to investigate. The latter suggested a small bony growth. Mr. D. remained vigilant and skeptical about this new development.
It was noted that in the days following his UFO observation, Mr. D experienced severe eye irritation - a burning sensation which was very disabling. On the 23rd March, he consulted an ophthalmologist and the latter informed him that his eyes had been burned. The practitioner asked questions about the circumstances of such an "accident," Mr. D—not daring to talk about his UFO sighting—mentioned the proximity of a radiation device linked to his work and the doctor then strongly recommended that he tell his boss so as to no longer expose him to such radiation. Mr. D. then told the ophthalmologist that he no longer worked at the establishment and that the "bombardment" to which he had been subjected had another source. Seeing that the practitioner was starting to look at him strangely, Mr. D. did not insist and left with a treatment based on cortisone eye drops. What is surprising for such a diagnosis of keratoconjunctivitis is that his vision did not seem affected. On 8th April , Mr. D. requested and received a medical certificate from the practitioner.
At the same time as the burning in his eyes, another physical effect occurred; a sort of brown spot appeared at the top of his left cheekbone (Mr. D. immediately thinks that if he had not put his head leaning towards the outside of the door to see "the thing" better, he would not have been burned). He firmly believed that he is the only one to suffer this damage because the other people had benefited from the "Faraday cage" effect of the vehicles. This spot causes neither pain nor discomfort, and slowly disappears. This is the mark Deforge noticed on meeting Mr. D.
The physical effects were slowly accompanied by other consequences that deeply disturbed Mr. D and these consequences were psychological and intellectual. The telepathic messages Mr. D. receives provide him with some insight into his past lives. But Mr. D. does not want to comment on this.
Mr. D seems to have “a capacity for physical strength and endurance in line with what one likes to imagine in a soldier who has accomplished difficult field missions, with in addition command tasks. Even today, at the age of 62, he is a man who is capable of long-term manual efforts, and which even seem to provoke the astonishment of some of his friends who are nevertheless very athletic”. According to Deforge Mr. D’s appearance: “is very harmonious and very athletic too, without a doubt. Compared to our first interviews, I am truly amazed to see the current change in this man, who seems literally freed from a lead weight, like someone who has just emerged from a real knockout blow, and who is now rediscovering his potential energy and the form of fulfilment that he must have had before the Saturday, January 10.” But Deforge went on to note: “However, MD tells me that again, there are times when he feels the grip of the phenomenon, which sometimes seems to guide him, so to speak. He also insists that we should not dwell too much on the circumstances of the phenomenon, but on its general significance, which he perceives as quite formidable, for Humanity, in terms of announcement effects”.
Mr. D. mentioned that he had the clear impression that he was "well regarded" by the entities and that his life had been marked by a great deal of generosity towards others, particularly his children and his colleagues in the workplace. His wife confirmed this, He stated, with a smile, that he may be among the 422,000 chosen ones who will be saved after the final apocalypse. Deforge notes that:
“his remark is curious, at a time when a group of experts of different nationalities and faiths have just joined forces for a new attempt to decipher the last book of the Bible, and have therefore published a groundbreaking work on this subject. The proximity of this deadline and the story of the 422,000 are widely discussed. Even more disturbing, this book evokes this apocalypse in the form of a third world war. Current events make everyone think that this terrible eventuality may not be entirely utopian, in the more or less long term, given the ingredients of the crisis, which are extremely serious. However, it must be recognized that the conditions evoked by this work are not met, since the origin of this conflict would be geographically located in Southeast Asia, (initial involvement of
On Wednesday, 6th May Bruno Cornec's article appears in the Gazette du Val-d'Oise, entitled A flying saucer in the sky of Haravilliers? An appeal for witnesses was been made. As far as I can discover there were no responses to that appeal.
On the afternoon of Wednesday the 13th there were 3 more hours of interview. On this last day, at the invitation of the investigators, the deputy editor-in-chief of the "Gazette du Val-d'Oise" participates in part of the interview.
Mr. D., even long after this encounter, still wonders why he did not stop his vehicle at that the time of the sighting. Mr. D recorded what happened to him and continued to happen through various manifestations, on sheets of paper currently numbering around forty: he keeps these sheets to himself as a sort of personal diary.
On Monday 18th, none of the witnesses had the desire or the opportunity to meet again to discuss what they saw. Today, when Mr. D runs out of medication, he still feels painful effects in his eyes. He wants to be left alone, in his anonymity. He fears that disclosing what happened to him will attract investigators that he absolutely does not want to meet: he has given enough. Since he experienced this phenomenon, according to the reactions of his family, especially his son, they find him much more inclined to discuss, to externalize his ideas and impressions, to the point that his son, having difficulty recognizing his father in these moments, gently reprimands him..
Mr. D was a fairly heavy smoker but after his alleged encounter every time he smokes, he feels this “horrible UFO smell” –a fetid, rotten smell, as he described it.
He thought he had understood the message of the entities: On the anniversary of the Saturday, 10th January, 1998 encounter, that is to say as close as possible, Saturday, 9th January, 1999, he was participating in a new hunting meeting. As he got out of his car, at the the parking lot, he felt pushed by a strange force which made him fall. And he fell in such a way that his metal cigar case was the first to come into contact with the ground and that impact injured his side. So he went to consult a doctor. For him, the meaning was clear: “ I deliberately refused to stop smoking, so that's out of the question! - Well, they kindly reminded me to order, because they want me to stop smoking, and it's still out of the question for me!” It should be noted that "the smell of UFO" is often present in Mr. D's everyday life, and that it causes him additional inconvenience. He seems to be the only one to notice it.
A little before Christmas 1998, Deforge received a phone call from Jacques Vallée who had learnt of the case in LDLN , and expressed his desire to share with him the continuation of the investigation, on the occasion of a trip to the
Everyone met on Saturday 6th and Mr. D. drives everyone back to the route he took that morning in 1998, as he usually does whenever he goes to his hunting appointments. Mr. and Mrs. D drove Jacques Vallée and his wife, while Deforge Gérard followed in his car. They took the Saint Denis path, which crosses Le Ruel, and stop once after a bend where the witnesses had seen the object. Mr. D. confirms everything he had already explained.
References :
Un récit incroyable... corroboré par 5 témoins ? par Gérard Deforge Lumieres Dans La Nuit N° 349, 1998-01/02)
Haravilliers par Emmanuel Delinger (1999).
The fact that there might have been confirmation of the UFO sighting by the Mercedes driver would make this a “simple” UFO sighting. However, from what I can find out he states this was a brief sighting. Mr. D confirms this as “3 seconds” so, unlike many on board cases where 15 -40 minutes or more are missing and during which we can presume any entities carry out what they need to three seconds seems to exclude this.
There is the eye irritation and even a skin mark. Now, if we believe that this was a crafted object and what was seen were parts of its propulsion system –Mr. D jumps to many conclusions – then it is possible that a small dose of radiation(?) hit him. But that might also be the case if this was a natural and uninvestigated form of energy (UNP) which has some interesting side effects. The human mind leaps straight away to “a craft” just as it does on seeing ball lightning and stating that it seemed intelligently controlled.
Apart from one confirmation of the UFO sighting the most detailed is Mr. D’s and that does not make this an “indisputable” case. Could the pulsing lights have caused a mild seizure making Mr. D think he was not in control of the car for three seconds as his attention was drawn to the objected –distracted? Mr. D also noted that his “mental fog” lifted after 0900 hrs and no one was talking about the UFO sighting but acting normal. This seems to suggest that while there may have been a UFO sighting everything else is in Mr. D’s imagination.
This “warping of time” in which far more happened than was thought I do not believe. The Mercedes driver blacked out but he also saw the object shoot over his friends’ approaching vehicle and confirming that the sighting lasted 3 seconds ? Also we have the later visions of the metal entities. If the abduction took place then surely the men would have been late for their hunt meet but, no, it is insisted, the encounter took 3 seconds in real time.
Then we have the personality changes –his son even chastising him at times- and all of the things that suddenly filled his mind. This sounds more like mental health issues –even if started by the sighting. Mr. D felt that the sighting was actually meant only for him. He believes that he is chosen and that these intelligences regard him fondly. He is quiet and fond of the family but then changes personality and spouts out things that no one understands. Along with the odd odour he smells I see more than a few red flares shooting up into the sky.
We have the 1979 Franck Fontaine faked abduction which was, by 1980, a known hoax. Yet, 25 years later Mr. D visited the area and spoke to the father of the (not) ‘still missing’ Fontaine who had no idea what happened to his son or where he was. The fact that he attaches significance to the elder Fontaine being the first person he spoke to also raises questions.
The eye condition could be caused by another factor as could the brown mark. What we have here is a case in which a number of people –one main witness being the source of all the information about what happened in his car and one who confirms a brief UFO sighting (which Mr D believes was the entities looking for him. We have Ufologists and video makers ignoring the major problems in this case and if they note the 3 second duration it is to suggest that aliens warp space-time. Suggesting that there was an abduction and implants does not give the account any credibility let alone those claiming such.
This case in one that would get a low credibility rating because, as noted, there is no physical evidence just observation. As a claimed more complex case it is very low in rating –about 0 to be honest. At any time did someone trained in psychology speak to Mr. D to assess him? If any French researchers can offer information that counters my assessment then that is more than welcome as my purpose is to offer as accurate an assessment as I can for people seeking the truth and if I have to say “Sorry –I got it all wrong” then I will.
Monday, 31 March 2025
There ARE Cases -Triangular Entities?
In my last book, Earth The 'Lost' Contacts there is a chapter headed Reports We Should Not Discuss? Elliott O’Donnell And Curious Triangular ‘Entities’? and I was browsing through the European CE3K archives when I found a report from 1981 or 1982 that reminded me of that chapter.
Over the years I have managed to identify specific types of entity involved in UFO landings or on board experiences but which have been unnoticed by Ufologists who in general have no interest in such accounts.
Ufologists have consistently ignored probably the most important aspect of the UFO phenomena because jumping on money making band wagons driven by grifters is easier. How many Ufologists know any of the following?
The Encounter
Time is uncertain but given as late night/early morning in either 1981 or ’82, "JP", a man in his early 20’s, was driving At 02:10 hrs he drove away from home in his car through the village of Åsum, 4 kilometers east of Odense to work at a warehouse in Odense. The village surrounds a tiny beech forest framed by three roads, giving the forest a triangular shape with each side being 150 metres long(see image below). PN was driving along Snedkerstræde road, which went along this forest area when his car reached the small hill just before the T-junction at Åsum Bygade and the engine cut out but the car continued rolling down the hill. At the T-junction, PN stopped the car using the brake.
He then saw something strange 60 metres away along Åsum Bygade. It was a light hovering somewhere between the road and the forest floor and at a height of 1-2 metres. This light was round and about 3 metres in diameter and illuminating the surroundings with a yellow coloured light.
PN then saw a ramp which led down from the object to the forest floor and an opened door through which he could see that the object’s interior resembled ”an orange cloud”. He also noticed two groups of "beings" standing near the UFO. The first group consisted of seven small beings who kept going up and down the ramp and were seemingly collecting samples of vegetation and soil from the forest floor which they gave to "someone‟ inside the craft. The second group consisted of three bigger entities; two standing atop the ramp near the entrance to the craft and one standing at the ramp’s foot.
He got the impression that the taller beings were a kind of ”guardians” and noticed them standing completely still. The shorter beings were around 1 metre in height and light grey in colour and resembling two triangles stacked on each other with the top triangle being somewhat smaller. PN assumed that the small top triangle was each "being’s head". The ”guardians” were similar in appearance and PN did not see any arms, but he did see the "guardians‟ holding (he assumed) what appeared to be some kind of measuring instrument. The beings had small stubby legs but the legs did not appear to move but instead, they seemed to glide or hover above the ground like hovercraft.
After having watched the UFO and the beings for a minute or so, PN noticed that in the opposite direction was a taxi parked near the creek (Odense Å). The taxi’s driver was flashing his headlights, but PN didn’t know whether this was directed at him since the taxi driver must have seen his car approach or to the UFO and its crew. PN then started the car’s engine -it worked perfectly: at the same time, the beings noticed they were being watched and began moving towards his car at a high velocity. At this point the taxi driver made a 180 degree turn and drove towards Odense. PN, now frightened, quickly turned his car left and followed the same direction. After he had driven about 150 metres down Åsum Bygade, PN looked in the rear view mirror and saw that the "UFO occupants" were standing in the middle of the bridge that goes over the creek. Shortly afterwards, the road turned and the beings vanished out of his sight.
When arriving at work in Odense, PN noticed that he was unusually early as a result of driving so fast. After his shift was over, he drove back to Åsum and looked at the area where he saw the UFO and the aliens. He found no physical traces whatsoever.
Above from UFO Nyt number 1 1997
Like many other people PN did not report the encounter to anyone outside of his family until 1996 when Scandinavian UFO Information received a tip from PN’s mother, who together with her husband had an unusual experience of their own a year or two earlier, where a UFO stopped their car. Erling Hegelund and Toke Haunstrup, interviewed PN and found that he was convinced that both his encounter and that of his parents were genuine cases of contact with extraterrestrial beings. PN also claimed to have developed precognitive psychic abilities after his close encounter. However, these abilities may have been in his imagination or mere coincidence as they did not stop him from being involved in many serious traffic accidents over the years.
Hegelund and Haunstrup also paid a visit to the location itself to see how it fit with PN’s story but after all that time it did not help but they did try to find people in the area who might have seen something back then that could help the investigation. No luck as most nearby residents didn’t even live there in the early 1980’s.
SUFOI also tried to find the taxi driver who blinked his lights from near the creek, through a personal ad in the local newspaper, but to no avail. With no idea how old the driver was it may have been that he passed away or even left the area so would not have seen any ad.
According to Ufologists the Åsum case seemed solid and quite rare for Denmark: a truly alien looking spaceship and crew, that might be robotic rather than flesh-and-blood creatures, who end up chasing the witness after he drives away in his car. To say nothing of the witness being permanently changed by his experience by apparently getting psychic powers from the aliens. This hits all the marks for an all time UFO classic. But, aside from memory of an incident being marred by age and memory (it was a fairly basic encounter so I would say not much to get overly confused over) can it be termed a "solid case"? Could his encounter have been "influenced" by his parents encounter years before?
Firstly, just one observer does not dictate, however sincere they are, that a case is solid. If the taxi driver had been found then that would add credibility to the case. I think that, if the account is true, the taxi driver was signalling PN to alert him that he was there or even, if his own engine had cut out and returned to life, he was signalling "my electrics work -try your engine!"
PN's parents had their engine cut out during a UFO sighting and that seems to have been it as I can find no other details of their report and, sadly, the SUFOI investigators I knew are now no longer with us so I cannot check further.
There was an assumption made by the investigators regarding PN's return to the site to try to find traces of the object or "entities". There were none. Well, were they actually "digging" into the ground or scooping -we have no idea of tools or anything else about these sample reports from around the world. Also it is possible that in some cases the entities have a "clean up" procedure to hide traces of their activity.
"The final verdict from the SUFOI investigators was of a witness being honest to them, at least to the best of his knowledge and memory. In other words: PN really believed that he had experienced what he reported, and that it was something otherworldly. But the lack of physical evidence (even by admission of PN himself), made the investigators more inclined to believe that PN could have had an advanced hallucinatory experience, where pre-existing ideas about aliens and spaceships filled in the gaps in his mind when interpreting the experience into sense data. The question then becomes, what triggered this hallucination – and the engine failure of the car – to begin with?"
Late evening and being tired could lead to an altered state experience -which is more common than people would have you believe. The fact here is that PN had no corroboration and for that reason this report would gt a question mark on it but a low credibility rating unless....
Here is part of the chapter from my book
When I first read this in The Casebook of Ghosts was the chapter titled My Night In Old Whittlebury Forest (pp. 147-150).
O’Donnell notes that the location he was investigating a haunting at, along with others, was Black House which was built on ground once covered by the old Whittlebury forest (Whittlebury is a village and civil parish in the south of the English county of Northamptonshire and close to its border with Buckinghamshire) he notes that:
“As the night was well advanced we began our sitting.
“None of us being orthodox spiritualists we did not form a circle but individually found the first convenient seat. We sat in darkness and in silence. The outdoor conditions kept favourable; every now and the gusts of wind howled like a host of lost souls round and round the house.
“Suddenly I was conscious of a curious change in the atmosphere of the room. A new element seemed to have entered it and intermingled with it, one that was very eerie. I was trying to diagnose this change when I felt a strong psychic current sweep past me in the direction of the door leading into the garden, close to which one of our hostesses, Miss H, was sitting. He change in the atmosphere at once became clearer; there was with us some elemental presence, something of the semi-human, semi-animal species that is associated with trees and forests.
“At my request, one of our party had brought a dog with him, as dogs, in my opinion, are sure psychic barometers, invariably making some kind of demonstration when anything supernatural is at hand. My companion’s dog now started to bark aggressively, as if there was something near at hand that it very strongly resented.
“Through the window overlooking the front garden facing me I saw a leadenish blue light, or rather glow. It lasted a few seconds then gradually faded away. Other members of the party also saw luminary phenomena, but through a glass door that led to another part of the house. Some of these lights were in the form of a crescent and others a triangle.
“During the whole time that these phenomena were manifesting intense excitement prevailed, a general thrill shared not only by my friend’s dog but by several dogs belonging to the house, and located in various parts of it, for one and all began to bark savagely. When the lights eventually disappeared and the dogs became silent we relit the lamps.
“We then related our respective experiences. Some of us had heard ghostly footsteps moving about the premises, others had heard uncanny whistling; while there were those who had seen and heard nothing. I asked Miss H if she had been conscious of the psychic current that had swept past me, and she said she had. She had felt something very unusual and unpleasant suddenly approach her. She was quite sure that it was not the spirit of the smoker; she had seen him in the room directly afterwards but he was friendly. She thought that the phenomenon must be one of the numerous psychic entities that sometimes haunted the immediate vicinity of the house but which rarely enter it.
“One of the other sitters told me afterwards that she was holding one of Miss H’s hands at the time and could feel Miss H trembling violently.
“After a short interval we sat in the darkness again. This time I, too, heard the uncanny whistling; it was just as if someone was standing by the window whistling to an animal and it was followed by the sound of faraway horse’s hooves. The sounds drew rapidly nearer and seemed to pass through the room, dying gradually away in the distance. Directly afterwards I heard mutterings and whisperings. Then silence.
“After a time Miss H relit the lamp and asked if anyone had heard the sounds of a horse in the room. I and several others told her that we had. She then informed us that she and Miss D had often heard the sounds of a horse tearing through the room, always at the same hour, namely two o’clock in the morning, the very time I had heard the sounds.”
My purpose here is not to look at ghosts and what “ghosts” might be. In this case I feel that everyone was aware of the haunting, which is why they were there, and that Miss H had seen the “smoker” ghost and I suspect that this was all created by some type of electro-magnetic field but, of course, not many people at the time were aware of the EMF or its effects on people -and animals. We have heard of dogs barking madly at the time of UFO observations ; even the sounds may have been auditory hallucinations caused by some form of EMF disruption and each interpreting it their own way. “Footsteps” in some cases for instance.
“Sensing something” is very likely noting a change in the EMF. On the three occasions I observed light phenomena I looked up at a specific point ion the sky just before they appeared. I spoke to many people who told me that they were doing something mundane when “I got a feeling, almost like butterflies in the stomach, and look over and there was nothing there -then I saw the object!” Some humans are very sensitive to minute changes in the EMF and this is often misinterpreted by Ufologists to mean that the person involved was somehow telepathically alerted to an object appearing.
Terms used in ghost investigating back in the pre-fantasy and TV sensationalist era had many “inhouse” terms -rather like Ufology has. It sounds odd if you are not familiar with the subject and literature.
The light phenomenon is what interests me here. Everything described we have heard of in “UFO active” areas and even houses.
I was talking to an acquaintance one day and he mentioned how while at his ex-partner’s home one evening he had heard her scream out. He rushed out to see her at the top of the stairs and just as two fading lights vanished. She had been suddenly confronted by 3-4 small coloured lights that appeared out of nowhere and floated along.
Another person I knew blurted out one day that he mother had gone downstairs one night only to see small balls of light emerge from the floor boards before vanishing.
Both of the above in clear weather so not related to a thunderstorm. Others have seen larger balls of light appear and either disappear or go through a wall and vanish. I believe that this phenomenon is EMF created -fluctuations or some unique event and they are by no means rare. Lights suddenly appearing out of the solid earth and floating around are known and recorded in history -no electrical storms anywhere near.
Regarding O’Donnell’s account and the light phenomena there is absolutely no doubt that today there are Ufologists who would declare this UFO activity and persistent activity a sign of long term abductions. In many cases when these “ghost lights” have passed near or passed by observers there was been paralysis which, again, fits in with the UFO subject. In one instance (I read this in one of - there are many – O’Donnell book well over 40 years ago and am still searching for which one it was!) O’Donnell noted how he and another investigator found themselves unable to move as a triangular light object passed along a corridor they were in.
In the BUFORA Journal, volume 7 no. 2, July/August, 1978, appeared an item that at the time really made me sit up and think of O’Donnell and the triangular light/lights. Headed Triangular Aliens? It was a personal experience by J. Garside and written by Norman Oliver which read:
“On 20 September 1973, Julian Garside, then 16 years of age, was coming home from work with a friend. They werte on his friend’s motor bike, and as they passed Stainland Woods between Huddersfield and Halifax, Julian noticed three bright triangular lights. He tapped his friend on the shoul;der and they stopped. They then both watched three triangular shapes ‘gliding’ uphill through the woods. Out of curiosity they decided to follow, though they were somewhat scared.: the three figures seemed to speed up and there was a smell like burning oil.
“The wood runs for about half a mile up hill and when they finally reached the top, nearly exhausted, the figures had disappeared; up above the, however, was a small round, orange light like a road crossing beacon. As they watched, this moved away and at the end of about a minute it had completely disappeared. In actual fact, there was no real ‘avenue’ through the trees, though the objects’ movements suggested this, since they glided straight forward : they left no tracks – only the oily smell being apparent.
“Both Julian and his friend thought at first they were ghosts, and indeed, the experience as a whole – assuming its various components were all part of the same occurrence – is most odd, involving as it does three geometrically shaped, precisely-moving ghostlike figures: a ‘mini-UFO’ and a smell of burning oil, this latter seemingly totally out of character with the rest of the report.”
The question here is why was it supposed that these were three entities? Three aliens? Or why was it assumed that they might be ghosts? Note how the item suddenly leaps to “figures”. Remembering the time that O’Donnell was an active ghost hunter if he and others had seen this then, yes, they would have conclude that the triangular shapes and round light were in some way supernatural -including the smell.
It is possible that what was seen was what I termed in 1979 as UNP (Uninvestigated - by Science -Natural Phenomena). This can create odours, ground traces and also change shape and here (Garside case) we could say that the phenomena (triangular lights) merged and became the small light which then rose and moved off. This is why I have always stressed that reports must be looked at and evaluated based on the knowledge we have. In 2024 I have no doubt the triangles would still be suggested to be entities.
Above: illustration to the Garside report in the BUFORA Journal (c)2024 respective copyright owner
What would be cool is if there were such cases with actual interaction (communication) between observers and triangular lights and a UFO. It would be cool but but in these two instances (O’Donnell and Garside) it would be fantasy.