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Sunday, 17 July 2016
The Flatwoods Monster Case - Ivan Sanderson's 1953 report - FREE MOVIE
Apologies that there are ads in this but it is an historical recording by Ivan T. Sanderson on his INVESTIGATION into the "Flatwoods" or Braxton County case. Sanderson WENT THERE and spoke to the observers at the time. He did not base everything on newspaper accounts or hearsay. this is the actual case not the fakery added to it since that time.
Whatever Happened to "The Hull Werewolf"?
I'm just tidying up loose ends here -DON'T get excited.
Back on 16th May, 2016, I posted this. I also issued a challenge to the newspapers involved and the "cryptozoologists" and "paranormalists" involved.
Not unexpectedly, not a single response. Rather like the fictionalised "British Bigfoot" this whole werewolf fantasy has proven itself...a fantasy. A hoax. A story made up to grab a few readers.
Unless, of course, a covert operations unit of the RSPCA captured it and covered everything up?
"Dog Man", British "wild man" or "British Bigfoot" -names of witnesses and better details than this. America goes for every dumb craze going and the UK seems to follow on a few years later.
No werewolves, no dog-man. Every time these stories appear there are nothing but dead ends and someone who knew someone who was anonymous. Rubbish.
Or do YOU have any evidence?
And a residents of a city are "trembling in terror" pft.
Seven separate eye witnesses claim to
have spotted the 8ft tall creature lurking in an abandoned industrial
area outside the centre of Hull.
Residents and folklore experts believe the mythical beast, said to turn from a human to wolf at a new moon, is Old Stinker.
According to a centuries-old legend the foul-breathed creature prowls the Yorkshire Wolds.
But locals fear it may now have decided to claim the overgrown area as its turf.
The lonely banks of Barmston Drain, a water channel built in 1798 to dry out salt marshes, are where the creature was first reported before Christmas.
One woman claims to have seen it turn from man to beast as she stood quaking on a bridge above.
She said: “It was stood upright one moment. The next it was down on all fours running like a dog. I was terrified.
“It bounded along on all fours,
then stopped and reared up on to its back legs, before running down the
embankment towards the water.
“It vaulted 30ft over to the other side and vanished up the embankment and over a wall into some allotments.”
A couple saw “something tall and hairy” eating a German Shepherd dog next to the Drain.
They stopped to get a closer look and saw it jump an 8ft high fence before vanishing into the night, its prey still in its jaws.
And a woman walking her dog along the watercourse spotted something “half-man, half-dog” in the distance.
She was terrified, and her pet began shaking and refused to go any further along the path.
Now locals plan a werewolf hunt with cameras and recording equipment at the next moon.
Local councillor Steve Wilson has offered to keep an incident log.
He said: “I am happy to keep a diary of sightings by people around here and report them to Hull Council.”
Witnesses say when the creature transforms, its upper body is more wolf than man – similar to the beast in the American Werewolf films.
The Hull creature bears an uncanny
resemblance to the legend of Old Stinker – said to prowl The Wold Newton
Triangle, an area of eerie goings on near Scarborough.
Charles Christian, author of A Travel Guide To Yorkshire’s Weird Wolds, said sightings went back centuries.
He said: “The Yorkshire Wolds was actually one of the last parts of England to have wild wolves. Old Stinker was said to be operating on the other side of them but it would be no distance at all for a large animal to get to Hull."
He added: “When you get multiple
sightings combined with a tradition of stories going back centuries it
is hard to ignore the possibility something might be there.”
Worried locals have sought help from Mike Covell, an expert in the supernatural.
He said: “I was sceptical at first, but then more and more people contacted me saying they had seen the same thing.
“No one really knows what to do. You can hardly pop down the local council office or police station and say you’d like to report a werewolf.”
And as someone pointed out -Hull is in the East Riding of Yorkshire not South Yorkshire. How the Hell does anyone even get that wrong -there are maps on the internet if they can't handle paper ones. You get a fact like that wrong then maybe you DO believe there are werewolves.......
The Mirror online has this headline: Mystery 'werewolf' creature terrifying families in Hull sparks major hunt http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/mystery-werewolf-creature-terrifying-families-7979525
Here's a challenge to these newspapers: I've been looking into all sorts of phenomena and mystery creatures since the mid-1970s. I am a naturalist. Open minded if presented with FACTS. Pay my expenses and I'll talk to the witnesses and look around this "home turf" of the creature.
Challenged.
Back on 16th May, 2016, I posted this. I also issued a challenge to the newspapers involved and the "cryptozoologists" and "paranormalists" involved.
Not unexpectedly, not a single response. Rather like the fictionalised "British Bigfoot" this whole werewolf fantasy has proven itself...a fantasy. A hoax. A story made up to grab a few readers.
Unless, of course, a covert operations unit of the RSPCA captured it and covered everything up?
Hull Werewolf -Challenge To The Newspapers
"Dog Man", British "wild man" or "British Bigfoot" -names of witnesses and better details than this. America goes for every dumb craze going and the UK seems to follow on a few years later.
No werewolves, no dog-man. Every time these stories appear there are nothing but dead ends and someone who knew someone who was anonymous. Rubbish.
Or do YOU have any evidence?
And a residents of a city are "trembling in terror" pft.
Residents trembling in terror after seeing '8 FOOT WEREWOLF' in British city
A CITY is trembling in terror as the full moon approaches, after a spate of werewolf sightings.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/670358/Hull-South-Yorkshire-werewolf-Old-Stinker-full-moon-Barmston-DrainResidents and folklore experts believe the mythical beast, said to turn from a human to wolf at a new moon, is Old Stinker.
According to a centuries-old legend the foul-breathed creature prowls the Yorkshire Wolds.
The lonely banks of Barmston Drain, a water channel built in 1798 to dry out salt marshes, are where the creature was first reported before Christmas.
One woman claims to have seen it turn from man to beast as she stood quaking on a bridge above.
She said: “It was stood upright one moment. The next it was down on all fours running like a dog. I was terrified.
“It vaulted 30ft over to the other side and vanished up the embankment and over a wall into some allotments.”
A couple saw “something tall and hairy” eating a German Shepherd dog next to the Drain.
They stopped to get a closer look and saw it jump an 8ft high fence before vanishing into the night, its prey still in its jaws.
And a woman walking her dog along the watercourse spotted something “half-man, half-dog” in the distance.
Now locals plan a werewolf hunt with cameras and recording equipment at the next moon.
Local councillor Steve Wilson has offered to keep an incident log.
He said: “I am happy to keep a diary of sightings by people around here and report them to Hull Council.”
Witnesses say when the creature transforms, its upper body is more wolf than man – similar to the beast in the American Werewolf films.
Charles Christian, author of A Travel Guide To Yorkshire’s Weird Wolds, said sightings went back centuries.
He said: “The Yorkshire Wolds was actually one of the last parts of England to have wild wolves. Old Stinker was said to be operating on the other side of them but it would be no distance at all for a large animal to get to Hull."
Worried locals have sought help from Mike Covell, an expert in the supernatural.
He said: “I was sceptical at first, but then more and more people contacted me saying they had seen the same thing.
“No one really knows what to do. You can hardly pop down the local council office or police station and say you’d like to report a werewolf.”
And as someone pointed out -Hull is in the East Riding of Yorkshire not South Yorkshire. How the Hell does anyone even get that wrong -there are maps on the internet if they can't handle paper ones. You get a fact like that wrong then maybe you DO believe there are werewolves.......
The Mirror online has this headline: Mystery 'werewolf' creature terrifying families in Hull sparks major hunt http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/mystery-werewolf-creature-terrifying-families-7979525
Here's a challenge to these newspapers: I've been looking into all sorts of phenomena and mystery creatures since the mid-1970s. I am a naturalist. Open minded if presented with FACTS. Pay my expenses and I'll talk to the witnesses and look around this "home turf" of the creature.
Challenged.
Books For Lovers Of The Strange and weird!
Yes, folks, just a few of the
things I've investigated are included in these books -all fully referenced and
including photographs and illustrations once thought lost.
Canids, in the form of foxes,
I'm still studying -and learning!
The Red Paper: Canids -Foxes, Wolves, Jackals and Coyotes in the UK
One for those interested in Wildlife -or cryptozoology!
Terry Hooper
The Red Paper: Canids
Paperback,
A4 (21 x 30cms)
202 Pages
Photographs, illustrations and maps
Price:
£10.29
Ships in 3–5 business days
By the 1700s the British fox
was on the verge of extinction and about to follow the bear and wolf having been
hunted for sport for centuries.
The answer was to import
thousands of foxes per year for sport. But foxes kept dying out so jackals were
tried. Some were caught, some escaped. Even wolves and coyote were released for
hunting and "country folk" were very far from "happy" -some
even threatening local hunts -one intending to release a wolf for a hunt- with
legal and other consequences.
The summation of over 40
years research by the noted naturalist and former UK police forces exotic
wildlife consultant reveals the damnable lie of "pest control"
hunting but also reveals the cruelty the animals were subject to and how
private menageries as well as travelling shows.
Private menageries, or single
exotic "pets" as well as travelling shows helped provide the British
and Irish countryside with some incredible events such as the 1905
"vampiric" sheep killer of Badminton, the mystery hounds of Cavan and
Coyotes of Epping Forest.
The Girt Dog of Ennerdale is
also dealt with in detail -was it a tiger? A Tasmania Thylacine? This book gives the
exact facts and details for the first time.
Up-dated 2013 edition
includes a section on sarcoptic mange in foxes and treatment plus a list of
wildlife sanctuaries and rescue centres in the UK.
http://www.lulu.com/shop/terry-hooper/the-red-papercanines-vol1/paperback/product-20492038.html
Some Things Strange & Sinister (2013 -up-dated)
A4 Format
B&W
Paperback
358 pages
Heavily illustrated
Price:
£15.00
Ships in 3–5 business days
After more than 40 years as
an investigator and more than fifty as a naturalist,the author has opened some
of the many files he has accumulated dealing with such things as..
The Terrifying Events At The
Lamb Inn, The Ghosts Of All Saints Church, Dead Aquatic Creatures of Canvey
Island, captured bigfoot like creatures in India -all exclusively presented
for the first time and with new added research previously unseen.
PLUS a vastly expanded
section on Spring-heeled Jack!
Photographs, maps, line
drawings and up-dated to make 358 pages looking at Things truly Strange and
Sinister.
Cryptozoologist,Ghost Hunter,Ufologist
or Fortean:this book has something for everyone -including the just plain
inquisitive!
Contents
Foreword by Travis L.
Whitehurst
Introduction
de occultis non judicat ecclesia
The Bristol Rocking Horse
The Terrifying Events At The Lamb Inn
The Coonian Ghost
The Ghosts Of All Saints Church
His Luminous Chamber
The Late Reverend Dr. Blomberg
And More Ghost Stories
The Thomas B. Cumpston Case
The Chupacabra
The Strange Case Of The Gotherington
Gargoyle
What’s Tall,Hairy And Vanishes?
Mystery Beasts Of Ireland
The Creature Of The Dump
The Strange Creature Of Repton Woods
The Bizarre Legends,Crimes And Truth
About Spring Heeled Jack
The Black Beast Of Darmstadt
The Nameless Thing Of Berkley Square
The Terrifying Case Of The U.S. Naval
Transport
The Case Of The Ghost Lear Jet
Ghost Planes,Crashes And Dead Aquatic
Creatures
The Mitchison Loch Ness
Monster Video
From The Deep Below To The Air Above
–USOs
Aerial Encounters Over Austria
A Crashed UFO In 1790?
Angel Hair
Quimper-Corentin:Where “Thunder Fell”
Strange Aliens From Space
The Llandrillo ‘Saucer’ And Other Crash
Retrievals
Transient Lunar Phenomena,Alien
Structures And Moon Vegetation
Whiddon
Down-Saint-Jean-du-Guard:Impossible Correlations?
The Venezuelan Horror
A Final Word.
Alleged piece of crashed UFO from Berwyn Mountains, Wales.
Some More Things Strange & Sinister
Terry Hooper-Scharf
Paperback,
A4
327 Pages
A4
327 Pages
Heavily illustrated
Price:
£15.00
Ships in 3–5 business days
Follow-up to the hugely
successful Some Things Strange & Sinister.
For those interested in
Ufology, cryptozoology, hominology, unusual natural history, ghosts and
mysteries in general.
The secret history of
gorillas in the UK
-before they were officially
'discovered'. The history of the
Wild men of Europe, the UK
and US: something that in the 1800s become very "pop culture" Very pop culture and totally forgotten today!
Hominology. Sasquatch and
Bigfoot -is there evidence for their existence?
No sitting on the fence here -the Patterson-Gimlin film is looked at as
well as other evidence. The Author's
conclusions? You might be surprised.
Giant snakes. Amazons. The
Giant serpent of Carthage.
The Girt Dog of Ennerdale -another big cult 'creature' amongst paranormal and
cryptozoological circles. The Beast of Gevaudan -what was it and were there
really descendents of the creature in the 19th century -one of which was
actually brought to London?
Believe it or not more than one incident of
historical crocodiles cases in the UK.
In fact, far more than even the Author had thought .
And, after more than a
century of claims by 'researchers' that it no longer exists: The Silent City of
Alaska and
the near legendary 'lost' photograph taken of it.
This and much more. Updated with extra pages
and photographs.
Pursuing The Strange And Weird -A Naturalist's Viewpoint (2014 up-date)
Ships in 3-5 business days.
http://www.lulu.com/shop/terry-hooper-scharf/pursuing-the-strange-weirda-naturalists-viewpoint/paperback/product-21307125.html
UP DATE -From Dead Aquatic
(Humanoid) Creatures, the giant squid and yet undiscovered sea creatures;
submarine and ships crews encountering true leviathans.
There is a fully expanded
section which also refers to the so-called ‘Ningen’ sightings and video
footage.
Extinct animals at sea that
have been re-discovered. The subject of Sasquatch and other mystery Hominids
around the world is dealt with including a look at the “Sasquatch-killer”,
Justin Smeja.
Dr. Bryan Sykes and his DNA
test results for TVs The Bigfoot Files as well as the controversial Erickson
Project and Dr. Melba Ketchum’s Even more controversial Sasquatch DNA test
results.
Also included are two early
French UFO entity cases that still baffle. Ghosts, strange creatures and the
Star-Child hoax. All dealt with by the naturalist and pursuer of the strange
and weird
The Bizarre Legends, Crimes And Truth About Spring Heeled Jack (2014
Terry Hooper-Scharf
Paperback,
53 Pages
Dimensions (centimetres) 20.98 wide x 29.69 tall (A4)
fully illustrated and referenced
Price:
£7.00
Ships in 3–5 business days
The terror and mystery
created by “Jack The Ripper” has been the subject of countless books, magazine
articles as well as movies and TV documentaries. Ask anyone if they have ever
heard of Jack The Ripper and it is doubtful anyone would respond with a “no
idea.”
By that same token, ask
people who “Spring-heeled Jack” was and you would be lucky to find anyone who
had ever heard of him.
Spring-heeled Jack was the
subject (loosely) of a film The Curse of the Wraydons (1946) and Dominic
Keating also appeared as Spring Heeled Jack in the 2010 film Sherlock Holmes by
The Asylum film company. The character has also featured in both American and
British comic books and a number of books, for both children and adults.
But the fact that the
Springald held the country –not just London–
in a grip of terror much longer that the Ripper did is all but forgotten except
for some half-truths and fanciful theories.
Now be prepared to read the
full story of Spring Heeled Jack
"The case was looked at by none other than Jacques Vallee which makes it near unquestionably fact!"
Someone attempted to get me into an argument over certain "classic" UFO cases. They lost as soon as they wrote:
"The case was looked at by none other than Jacques Vallee which makes it near unquestionably fact!"
No.
You see, to myself and my late friend and colleague Franklyn A. Davin-Wilson, the Frenchman was a bit of a hero. A lone scientist standing up to question the scientific establishment regarding the facts and truths about UFOs. How could you go wrong?
As proven by posts on this blog, certain 'factual' historical and other events involving 'UFOs' or "some other force" never happened. Some were just tall tales, faery tales and outright hoaxes -in the case of hoaxes, Vallee was still citing those cases in his last works.
When it came down to collating every UFO report we could get our hands on (sadly, Franklyn died in 1983 so this became a one man project) for the Grey Book Report there were books that were dismissed within an hour.
Desmond Leslie, former editor of The Flying Saucer Review seemed to be almost incapable of stating a simple fact. If he wrote "Every 24 hours the sun rises" I'd need to check that out because if he stated it was a fact it must be questionable! What original sources quoted that really did have a date and time matching what Leslie wrote...well. A "manned classic flying saucer with multiple lights maneuvering over Rome" was, in source, "a spear crossed above the city" ("spear" and similar terms meant meteors).
It was assumed that Vallee was above reproach since he advocated close scrutiny of all cases. Wrong. His quoting a known hoaxer such as Foglio but never checking the sources given was akin, to me, with being hit over the knuckles with a hammer. A one off. No...in fact, far, far more than a mere "one off".
As I showed in my books -with references and sources quoted and having been checked- particularly Some Things Strange & Sinister and later in my other books, Vallee fell from grace. Hard.
Quimper-Corentin, France, 1620: never happened as Vallee described.
Alencon, France, 1790: UFO and entity case -never happened and no report in the archives of the French Academy of Sciences as Vallee claimed:and he could have checked!
And to still use known hoax cases and cases proven to have other explanations and cite them as evidence to back up his personal theories. Unforgivable.
But, and again, I have posted and written about this, there are other "highly regarded and credible" Ufologists -European and American- who have used as 'evidence' cases they have never looked into nor done research on.
I have seen,on television as well as on You tube available documentaries, some of today's "top" UFO 'experts' cite the Thomas Mantell case as still being the death of a USAAF pilot dying while pursuing an "alien craft". Utter bull-shit. How and why Mantell died we know. It was tragic but down to human error -error on Mantell's part. But if the person saying Mantell died pursuing an alien craft is an 'expert' (I call them "fraudsters") and on TV....now, the Public is not going to query that or get off its collective fat arses and go do some research to find out the truth.
These are the days when most 'factual' programmes on TV are faked -"cast" as well as "writers" are listed but it's 'factual' because "This program is intended for entertainment purposes only" at the beginning is "just legal stuff"....yes. Legal stuff for a reason.
TV: Mountain Monsters -Fake. Ghost Adventures -Fake. Ghost Hunters and its spin-offs -Fake. Fact or Faked -Fake. Haunted Highway -Faked. Haunted Collector -SO Faked. My Ghost story -Faked it goes on and on. Because "artistic license" allows for more entertainment with special effects, actors and so on.
Look at the factual programme -Finding Bigfoot. "But they never find Bigfoot!" Well, yes. Because Bigfoot does not pop out for a group of people with film crews and who make a LOT of noise. And tree-knocks and calls are not evidence of a Bigfoot being there. It simply means that, somewhere in the forest, other Bigfoot investigators who also keep their work and where they are going "very close to the chest" have heard tree-knocking and calls and respond!
There are locations where Bigfoot activity is regular but a few days in an area is NOT going to get you a glimpse of Bigfoot. It takes a long period of time and financial backing. Something you are not going to get so "fake it" with other programmes.
And if people believe that the faked programmes and 'experts' are real and every house, hotel, bar has a demonic presence/gateway or portal to Hell/little girl ghost blah blah blah then they'll believe in "the Goatman" or the "Pigman" or evil gnomes and so much more including that Grey aliens are abducting billions a year.
All this makes Vallee's claims, of course, seem very tame and scientific. Of course, compared to the Rex Dutta's and Peter Fischer's (aka Peter Paget) of Ufology he does seem to be a scientist beyond reproach. But, sadly, egotism, very poor research and the willingness to jump straight into a theory or theories (I'm not quite sure WHAT he believes in these days) and push them on the gullible who, again, do not check for themselves, makes him a credible ufologist only on his own book cover blurb (and if I read once more how he inspired a character in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind I will scream).
The only way we will be able to find the true cases, the raw data needed to sort fact from fiction and be able say "Look. Here is the evidence. Read and take it from here" is by throwing out the fakery and very -VERY- poor research.
As Franklyn Davin-Wilson said: "Check the source given. Then check the source that the source gives. If it all tallies and you have spoken to the original source or seen it -then use it"
"The case was looked at by none other than Jacques Vallee which makes it near unquestionably fact!"
No.
You see, to myself and my late friend and colleague Franklyn A. Davin-Wilson, the Frenchman was a bit of a hero. A lone scientist standing up to question the scientific establishment regarding the facts and truths about UFOs. How could you go wrong?
As proven by posts on this blog, certain 'factual' historical and other events involving 'UFOs' or "some other force" never happened. Some were just tall tales, faery tales and outright hoaxes -in the case of hoaxes, Vallee was still citing those cases in his last works.
When it came down to collating every UFO report we could get our hands on (sadly, Franklyn died in 1983 so this became a one man project) for the Grey Book Report there were books that were dismissed within an hour.
Desmond Leslie, former editor of The Flying Saucer Review seemed to be almost incapable of stating a simple fact. If he wrote "Every 24 hours the sun rises" I'd need to check that out because if he stated it was a fact it must be questionable! What original sources quoted that really did have a date and time matching what Leslie wrote...well. A "manned classic flying saucer with multiple lights maneuvering over Rome" was, in source, "a spear crossed above the city" ("spear" and similar terms meant meteors).
It was assumed that Vallee was above reproach since he advocated close scrutiny of all cases. Wrong. His quoting a known hoaxer such as Foglio but never checking the sources given was akin, to me, with being hit over the knuckles with a hammer. A one off. No...in fact, far, far more than a mere "one off".
As I showed in my books -with references and sources quoted and having been checked- particularly Some Things Strange & Sinister and later in my other books, Vallee fell from grace. Hard.
Quimper-Corentin, France, 1620: never happened as Vallee described.
Alencon, France, 1790: UFO and entity case -never happened and no report in the archives of the French Academy of Sciences as Vallee claimed:and he could have checked!
And to still use known hoax cases and cases proven to have other explanations and cite them as evidence to back up his personal theories. Unforgivable.
But, and again, I have posted and written about this, there are other "highly regarded and credible" Ufologists -European and American- who have used as 'evidence' cases they have never looked into nor done research on.
I have seen,on television as well as on You tube available documentaries, some of today's "top" UFO 'experts' cite the Thomas Mantell case as still being the death of a USAAF pilot dying while pursuing an "alien craft". Utter bull-shit. How and why Mantell died we know. It was tragic but down to human error -error on Mantell's part. But if the person saying Mantell died pursuing an alien craft is an 'expert' (I call them "fraudsters") and on TV....now, the Public is not going to query that or get off its collective fat arses and go do some research to find out the truth.
These are the days when most 'factual' programmes on TV are faked -"cast" as well as "writers" are listed but it's 'factual' because "This program is intended for entertainment purposes only" at the beginning is "just legal stuff"....yes. Legal stuff for a reason.
TV: Mountain Monsters -Fake. Ghost Adventures -Fake. Ghost Hunters and its spin-offs -Fake. Fact or Faked -Fake. Haunted Highway -Faked. Haunted Collector -SO Faked. My Ghost story -Faked it goes on and on. Because "artistic license" allows for more entertainment with special effects, actors and so on.
Look at the factual programme -Finding Bigfoot. "But they never find Bigfoot!" Well, yes. Because Bigfoot does not pop out for a group of people with film crews and who make a LOT of noise. And tree-knocks and calls are not evidence of a Bigfoot being there. It simply means that, somewhere in the forest, other Bigfoot investigators who also keep their work and where they are going "very close to the chest" have heard tree-knocking and calls and respond!
There are locations where Bigfoot activity is regular but a few days in an area is NOT going to get you a glimpse of Bigfoot. It takes a long period of time and financial backing. Something you are not going to get so "fake it" with other programmes.
And if people believe that the faked programmes and 'experts' are real and every house, hotel, bar has a demonic presence/gateway or portal to Hell/little girl ghost blah blah blah then they'll believe in "the Goatman" or the "Pigman" or evil gnomes and so much more including that Grey aliens are abducting billions a year.
All this makes Vallee's claims, of course, seem very tame and scientific. Of course, compared to the Rex Dutta's and Peter Fischer's (aka Peter Paget) of Ufology he does seem to be a scientist beyond reproach. But, sadly, egotism, very poor research and the willingness to jump straight into a theory or theories (I'm not quite sure WHAT he believes in these days) and push them on the gullible who, again, do not check for themselves, makes him a credible ufologist only on his own book cover blurb (and if I read once more how he inspired a character in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind I will scream).
The only way we will be able to find the true cases, the raw data needed to sort fact from fiction and be able say "Look. Here is the evidence. Read and take it from here" is by throwing out the fakery and very -VERY- poor research.
As Franklyn Davin-Wilson said: "Check the source given. Then check the source that the source gives. If it all tallies and you have spoken to the original source or seen it -then use it"
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