A Crashed UFO In 1790?

 from Robyn Collin's 1974 book ‘Did Spacemen Colonise the Earth’

    According to Antonio Fenoglio in his article[1], he visited the Archives of the august French Academy of Sciences, Paris, and discovered the following report submitted to it[2].  In 1975, Dr Jacques Vallee quoted the account and appeared to indicate that he had seen the report himself [3].

    You will no doubt be very interested in what could be the first (?) UFO crash in history. 

    During June, 1790, Police Inspector Liabeuf was sent from Paris to Alencon, west of the city (between Argentan and Le Mans).  His orders were to make a thorough investigation of a disturbing incident –some of the observers being of high standing.

    Liabeuf visited the town and the following is his report, submitted to the Academy of Sciences.

                        “At 5 A.M.,on June 12th,several farmers caught         

                        sight of an enormous globe which seemed surrounded

                        with flames.   First they thought it was perhaps a

                        balloon that had caught fire,but the great velocity

                        and the whistling sound which came from that body

                        intrigued them.

                        “The globe slowed down,made some oscillations and

                        precipitated itself towards the top of a hill,

                        unearthing plants along the slope.  The heat which

                        emanated from it was so intense that soon the grass

                        and the small tree started burning.  The peasants

                        succeeded in controlling the fire which threatened

                        to spread to the whole area.

                        “In the evening this sphere was still warm and an

                        extraordinary happened,not to say an incredible

                        thing.  The witnesses were;two mayors,a doctor and three

                        other authorities who confirm my report,in addition

                        to the dozens of peasants who were present.

                        “This sphere,which would have been large enough to

                        contain a carriage,had not suffered from all that

                        flight.  It excited so much curiousity that people

                        came from all parts to see it.  Then all of a sudden

                        a kind of door opened and,there is the interesting

                        thing,a person like us came out of it,but this person

                            

                        “was dressed in a strange way,wearing a tight-fitting suit

                        and,seeing all that crowd,said some words which were

                        not understood and fled into the woods.  Instinctively,

                        the peasants stepped back,in fear,and this saved

                        them because soon after that the sphere exploded in

                        silence,throwing pieces everywhere,and these pieces

                        burned until they were reduced to powder.

                        “Researches were initiated to find the mysterious

                        man,but he seemed to have dissolved.”

    Dr Vallee, a respected scientist who has spoken before the United Nations, cites this case as evidence of visitors from some other world.  Dr Vallee notes the many similarities to modern accounts of “UFOs”.

    The question is; does this report exist?  Fenoglio wrote his article circa 1967 so we know that the document was, allegedly, still in existence then.  Inspector Liabeuf’s report either exists or was fiction created by Fenoglio and it is scientifically important that the reality of it is ascertained once and for all.  After all,the report had many features from modern UFO accounts: the landed object followed by an entity appearing and the explosion totally destroying the object.  Even the description of the clothing worn by the entity is typical of modern accounts.

    What this meant was simple: people in 1790 France could not possibly know of post 1947 accounts of UFOs and Liabeuf’s report would be a major kick in the teeth to the anti-UFO brigade.

    A document was forwarded to the Keeper of the Archives, French Academy of Sciences, on 9th January, 2006.  It took a while but rather than hearing that the report had been found I was told that no such report existed or reference to it found.  Fenoglio seems to have been the only person ever to have seen the report leading to the conclusion that this was yet another UFO hoax. Fenoglio was in fact a well known UFO hoaxer -this was known in the 1960s.

    I forwarded a copy of my report to Dr. Vallee’s last known contact point but nothing so far.

    This was a real disappointment to me, though I should have expected it.

    

References

[1]         Fenoglio,A.,”Ancient Sky Visitors”,Clypeus magazine III,p.13 [quoting]~

[2]         “Archives of the Academy of Sciences,Paris,France”           

[3]         Vallee,Dr Jacques,Passport To Magonia,Tandem Books,London,

                                                                                  1975,pp:60-61

[4]          AOP Bureau Case Reference No.022/06/1790/FR

               Location:Alencon,France.

Taken from Some Things Strange And Sinister by Terry Hooper-Scharf
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Quimper-Corentin: Where “Thunder Fell”

    This is another case that the learned Dr Vallee has presented as evidence of  “otherworldly” visitors.  The inference is that some form of craft and an entity were seen (the “demon”) at Quimper-Corentin [1].  It needs to be ascertained just what did happen, if possible.

    If the object involved was a fireball during a storm or even a meteorite this must be found out.  However, this all hinges on whether or not the object in question did fly off  after what must have been several hours if we take into account what is said to have happened.

    The account.

    In the year 1620, the cathedral at Quimper-Corentin, France, had a lead covered pyramidal object on its roof.   Between 19:00-20:00 hours, 1st February, 1620, ”thunder fell” on this structure the pyramid caught fire, exploded and then fell to the ground with a tremendous noise.

    From various parts of the town people ran to the site but, according to Vallee, what they saw was no ordinary fire.  For in “the midst of the lightning and smoke, a demon, of a green colour, with a long green tail, doing his best to keep the fire going”. According to Lenglet-Dupresney[2], this ‘demon’ was seen by all the observers within the fire, ”sometimes green, sometimes blue and yellow”.

    The local authorities gathered  and into the “roaring fire” was thrown a quantity of Agnus dei (Agnus dei was the name given to certain discs of wax impressed with the figure of a lamb and blessed at stated seasons by the Pope), nearly 150 buckets of water and 40-50 cartloads of manure –all  of which must have taken some considerable time to gather as one would doubt that 40-50 cartloads of manure were luckily just hanging about.   When this did not work a consecrated host was placed within a loaf of bread and thrown into the fire –it did not work.   Next, blessed water was mixed with milk given by a nurse “of above reproach” and this was spread (thrown) over the ‘demon’ and burning pyramid.   The ‘demon’ then whistled in a most “horrible fashion” and flew off [3].

    This is all Vallee tells us [4].  One has to assume that whatever this ‘demon’ was, if this account is correct, there must have been great energy at work to not just strike and explode a structure but to then continue burning for a considerable time thereafter.

    We are not told of weather conditions –could this have been a type of fireball?  If so, were 150 buckets of water and 40-50 cartloads of manure really unable to dampen the fire?

    An important event worth re-examining even if it turned out not to be what Vallee claims.  As with the 1790 Liabeuf report of a crashed “UFO”, if this was a true incident then its ramifications could be major –especially if it were ascertained from accounts just what the “demon” looked like.

 

    I forwarded a copy of Vallee’s account along with an enquiry to the French Academy of Sciences Archivist. A brief exchange of e-mails took place.  The year of the incident was checked.  The documents were checked for the location.  Sadly, that was it.  Quimper-Corentin references could not be found though it was known that in one year there was a fire in the steeple following a lightning strike.

    It appears that, yet again, Dr. Vallee was guilty of quoting some rather suspicious sources.  Still widely quoted on the internet –some quoting the “original source” as though they have just discovered the account. 

    There was no “craft” hitting the church and neither was any “alien” observed.

References:

[1]    La Vision Publique d’un Horrible et Tres-Epourcentable Demon sur L’Eglise

         Cathedrale de Quimper-corentin en Bretagne,Paris,1620

[2]     Lenglet-Dupresney,Recueli de Dissertations sur les Apparitions,Leloup,Paris,

          1751:volume 1,parts 2;p.109

[3]      Gabriel-Robinet,L.,Le Diable,sa vie sun oeuvre,Lugdunum,1944

[4]      Vallee,Jacques,Passport To Magonia,Tandem,London,1975:p.63


Taken from Some Things Strange & Sinister by Terry Hooper-Scharf

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Distant 'waterworld' is confirmed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17117030

GJ 1214b orbits close to its host star, as this artist's impression shows

Haunted Skies Project

Only just realised that I had not added a link to the Haunted Skies project.  Now I have!

Re-Posted: The Shame Of Brasil

It is almost unbelievable that this is being allowed.  It's no exaggeration:this is a death sentence for these people as well as many animals discovered/undiscovered.

 

 

I hope that this image travels the world . . . 

“While newspapers and television talk about the lives of celebrities, the chief of the Kayapo tribe received the worst news of his life: Dilma, “The new president of Brazil, has given approval to build a huge hydroelectric plant (the third largest in the world). It is the death sentence for all the people near the river because the dam will flood 400,000 hectares of forest. More than 40,000 Indigenous Indians will have to find another place to live. The natural habitat destruction, deforestation and the disappearance of many species is a fact.”


What moves me in my very bowels , making me ashamed of being part of Western culture, is the reaction of the chief of the Kayapo community when he learned of the decision—his gesture of dignity and helplessness before the advance of capitalist progress, modern predatory civilization that does not respect the differences . . .
But we know that a picture is worth a thousand words, showing the reality of the true price of our bourgeois “quality of life”.


Sign the AVAAZ Petition to stop the dam here: http://www.avaaz.org/en/amazon_under_threat/
Here is the link to “Earth. We are one.” Official Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Earth-We-are-one/149658285050501

Amazing ‘tsunami cloud’ hits Florida coastline

This looks really cool so thought I'd share it:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/amazing-%E2%80%98tsunami-cloud%E2%80%99-hits-florida-coastline.html

At first glance, it looks as though a tsunami wave is about to crash into a swathe of high-rise tower blocks.

But for beachgoers and surfers alike along Panama City Beach, Florida, there was no need to panic, the giant wave was just an curious illusion caused by harmless sea fog rolling off the Gulf of Mexico.

The tsunami-like clouds are just a harmless weather phenomenon. Photo: Splashnews

 

So what’s the science behind the captivating photograph taken from a helicopter earlier this month?

This ‘tsunami cloud’ effect is believed to be caused by a phenomenon known as the ‘Kelvin–Helmholtz instability’ that can occur in both air and water.

 This is when a fast-moving layer of fluid or air washes over a slower, thicker layer – creating the wispy wave effect.

According to helicopter pilot JR Hott, the clouds appear a few times a year but normally further down the coast.

Mr Hott wrote: "When the temperature, humidity and winds are just right, we'll get this fog that forms on the high rise condos on the beach.”

He added: “The event, while it can form quickly, moves gently and slowly. It isn't something that happens with more than a gentle breeze.”

'Mermaid' Sightings in Zimbabwe Spark Debate Over Traditional Beliefs

 I am sure more than a few of you have heard about this but its fun!

Water Resources Minister Sam Sipepa Nkomo told a senate committee that traditional chiefs will perform rituals to exorcise mermaids believed to inhabit reservoirs where workers are now afraid to tread

Violet Gonda | Washington

 

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Some strange things have been happening lately in various parts of Zimbabwe.

Last month a man was hounded from a Bulawayo neighborhood over claims he possessed goblins that were raping his wife and his neighbors’ wives, and otherwise wreaking havoc in the suburban community.

This week Water Resources Minister Sam Sipepa Nkomo told a senate committee that mermaids have been hounding government workers off dam sites in Mutare, Manicaland, and Gokwe, Midlands.

The minister’s stunning revelations add to the many sensational stories that Zimbabweans have over the years passed on about supernatural manifestations in their communities.

Though many are skeptical, some do firmly believe that mermaids exist in Zimbabwe.

Nkomo told a senate oversight committee that traditional chiefs are going to perform rituals to exorcise mermaids believed to inhabit reservoirs in Gokwe and Mutare where workers are afraid to tread.

Mermaids are supposedly mythological water creatures with a female body and the tail of a fish. Those tales were mostly in circulation hundreds of years ago – but stories continue to make their rounds in Zimbabwe.

One version says mermaids carry humans underwater and if there is a public outcry their relatives might never see them again. But it is also said that victims can return as spirit mediums if their disappearance is not mourned.

Such creatures are said to be terrifying workers at the Gokwe dam in Midlands and the Osborne dam in Manicaland.

Nkomo said all the workers he sent to work on the dam sites to install water pumps had dumped the project vowing not to return to the areas because of the mythical water creatures.

Local Government, Rural and Urban Development Minister Ignatius Chombo, who also appeared before the senate committee, backed the call for traditional rites to be performed at the dams to allay workers’ fears.

Nkomo said the government is prepared to give the population the water it needs, but is unable to do so until the rituals are performed and necessary repairs can be carried out.

He said he tried to hire white personnel to do the work at Osborne dam, supposedly because they had not been exposed to the mermaids reports, but they too refused to undertake the project alleging they had seen suspicious creatures.

According to the minister, workers report that people have disappeared mysteriously while some have been chased away by the legendary creatures.

Traditional leader chief Edison Chihota of Mashonaland East said there

is no dispute about the existence of mermaids.

“As a custodian of the traditional I have no doubt," chief Chihota said. "For anyone to dispute this is also disputing him or herself.”

Cultural activist Prince Peter Zwide Khumalo, a descendant of King Lobengula, said mermaids play a central role in spiritual beliefs and they are thought to mainly inhabit the largest dams, such as Lake Kariba.

“They are said to exist in water particularly in big dams like Kariba. I haven’t heard of mermaids in small dams.”

But Khumalo said it is important to weigh reality against what people believe because development can be delayed wielding traditional beliefs that cannot easily be disproved.

“I do not believe that they need to be used to hinder development. This needs to be looked into very seriously by the minister because they might go and do cultural rituals but find that people still do not continue to work,” Khumalo added.

Minister Nkomo, a Seventh Day Adventist Christian, said that while he does not believe in mermaids in this part of the world, he would not meddle in the traditional beliefs of others, including witchcraft.

Witchcraft is a controversial subject in Zimbabwe: Some see it as a source of trouble, others believe it can bring good fortune.

It is so widespread that it is recognized by the law – for instance the Bulawayo goblin man sought police assistance after he admitted that the goblins he bought from a n’anga to bring him riches were allegedly raping his wife and those of neighbors.

Cultural experts and traditionalists note economic basis of some beliefs - poverty turns many to turn to witchcraft to gain riches or to hurt enemies.

Chief Chihota said he believes political opponents were killed and thrown into the reservoirs said to be inhabited by mermaids, hence the need to appease the spirits.

The traditional leader said: “I think let’s go back to the late 70s when the struggle was being waged and I understand a number of people were thrown in those dams and nothing was done and a continuation has been happening. So we have to start from somewhere.”

But Nkomo offered another theory: He suggested that unusual water pressures in the reservoirs could be creating hazardous currents and perhaps illusions.

“In Mutare what I think is happening is that there must be a sanction underneath there which creates a hole and the water will actually be swirling violently that if you fell in you will not come out, even if you had an oxygen mask.”

Nonetheless, the minister said this is no laughing matter so traditional rites will be performed to comfort some powerful African beliefs.

AOP Bureau: The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects

I have been asked a couple of times now just how long it will be before I publish the Grey Book Report On Unidentified Flying Objects -the final report of the AOP Bureau from 1983?

Well, I have three cram-packed lever arch folders (approx 3000 pages), other files and reports that I need to pick through.

This might seem odd to some if the Report was published in 1983. I need to explain. The report was offered in a condensed version to UK ufologists -the main and well known ufologists and UFO groups. Every response was negative. One leading Ufologist offered a few back issues of an A5 newsletter their group produced in exchange for the full report.  I declined the offer and pointed out that the condensed report was thick enough and was offered FREE.

New objections:"It all sounds too James Bondish to me" -? This was possibly in reference to the fact that I had explained the opriginal report was restricted because so many people were named who did not wish to be identified with UFO work.  Back then (1977-1983) there was no luxury of using the Data Protection Act. So, after a lot of consulting the AOP Bureau instigated the Joint Scientific Intelligence Communications Document (JSICD) that was up-dated as and when needed.

"Scientific" because we sometimes dealt with information from scientists/astronomers et al and were privvy to equipment, etc., they were testing using as well as dealing with official scientific bodies that did not wish to court UFO Media attention.

"Intelligence" -this referred to the gathering of information from all sources whether civilian, ufologists, military, police or overseas correspondents/investigators. The AOP Bureau never ever claimed to be some ultra-secret spy group (despite the Russians and Chinese suspecting this!).  And I refer you to a definition of intelligence: "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" (1995), a report published by the Board of Scientific Affairs of the American Psychological Association: Individuals differ from one another in their ability to understand complex ideas, to adapt effectively to the environment, to learn from experience, to engage in various forms of reasoning,

So the AOP Bureau was set up to look into UFOs in all their complex phases, research, analyse, comment and report.

Immediately leaping to the conclusion that "intelligence" signifies "spies" and "James Bondish" mentality shows how dumb certain ufologists can be.

"Communications" because this covered correspondence, faxes, telex messages (no email back then) as well as face-to-face discussions and telephone calls.  Everything was treated as confidential even in circumstances where this was not dictated.

Do I really have to define "Document"??


Then there were the responses that "Ufology seems dead at the moment and we have to wonder whether its really worth requesting a copy of the report"  -I am NOT joking (a lot of ufologists in the mid-late 1980s reported on ufo activity decreasing and asking if the UFO phenomenon was now "gone?"

What I did not expect was for one group after another to respond by stating:"This all sounds far too nuts and bolts to us -have you even considered the spirituality of flying saucers?"  There were various responses like that and it seemed everyone in British ufology was going "flying saucer spirituality" crazy. 

In fact, the condensed version of the report was never printed because, out of 40 ufo groups/individuals not a single one wanted a copy.

The next step was to try to get the report published via a mainstream publisher.  Air Vice Marshal Sir Victor Goddard and Lord (Brinsley) Clancarty wrote covering notes stating that this was the nearest the UK had come to the USAF Project Blue Book and much more. 

Here the jealousy of ufologists crept in.  One leading UK ufologist dismissed the entire report because, if this was the major UK investigation why were 'they' not involved? 

Now, publishers often used people said to be knowledgable on certain subjects to read submitted manuscripts and state whether they were worth publishing.  Authors very rarely found out why their Mss were rejected or who suggested they be rejected. 

It has to be made very clear that the Ms clearly pointed out that it was the culmination of a study that took place from 1977-1983.  Therefore the subject material and cases were from pre-1983.  This was very heavily criticised by the two seperate reviewers "there is nothing in the way of new case reports here!" -This made no sense.  It is equivalent to stating that the Condon Report on UFOs published in 1969 contained no cases from 1970 onward!

Another gripe was that the end of each chapter dealing with a specific period of activity contained a table listing date, time, location, source for reports identified as comets, meteorites, etc..  "This makes no sense!" was the criticism.  Basically, the readers wanted every single one of those reports in full "otherwise this is useless" -in fact, as pointed out, the actual "genuine" incidents would have been lost in so much dross that it would detract from the purpose of the work.  A chapter covering one period with 75 incidents listed and all but two clearly identified as "explained".

There was another problem.  The readers did not like my writing style.  In fact, they were spitting venom over it.  Bearing in mind that by this period I was earning a living as a writer in various fields the remark "he is obviously not a proficient writer" was a little insulting.  Then there were the spelling mistakes;"there are a lot of spelling errors" -a professor of Engliush literature who was involved in ufology had proo-read the MS which totalled over 271,689 words had 20 spelling mistakes -which if you are typing all day and into the night (sometimes til 0300 hrs) is not bad.  But this, to the two ufologist readers was unacceptable.

There was another vehemic response to an aspect of the MS -"it is written as though he is talking to someone sat next to him."  Apparently, the very idea of explaining complicated aspects of science and ufology to the ley reader in terms they could understand while not talking down to them was an outrage! It was letting all the "punters" understand things -it took away the false air of 'science' these ufologists so loved. The whole purpose of the report MS was that everyone should be able to understand what was going on because, by its very nature (and as ufologists keep insisting) everyone should know what is going on.

I found it very interesting that the two ufologist readers kept referring to their own books -why weren't they referenced and "perhaps he ought to be directed to these books to purchase copies..." they were reviewing my manuscript for a publisher and touting their books!!! In fact, as the report covered 1977-1983 their books had not even been published!

But then there were the "Oh, he needs someone to edit his MS to make it workable" -I got the distinct impression the readers were desperately touting for work and if they were involved this MS would work!

Both readers, working for different publishers, were doing a hatchet job and damn any significance the end book might have because they were not involved.

The manuscript was obviously rejected because my knowledge of ufos "was out of date and limited".  As it so happened one of the AOP Bureau benefactors, Lord XXXXX, was involved in the board of both publishers and though he could not interfere, he did manage to get me the copies of both readers' reports. I was shocked to find out that both were people I had worked with and supported over the years -especially when they were heavily criticised by others.

I still have one of those readers reports and I have had no contact with those persons since.  I did not even let on that I knew what they had done -one I found later had not just touted the basic idea of my MS to other publishers but intimated to them that I had stolen ideas from them (and I note that one did use some notes from my MS  to use as their own work later. 

So, The Report will not contain new case reports because it would be totally out of context. The Report is an historical document that has been read widely by those in certain echelons (the last being Lord (Peter) Hill Norton) and will show how two separate phenomena  (UNP: Uninvestigated (by Science) Natural Phenomena and UFOB:seemingly constructed craft) were defined and how a mixture of so much chaff led to mainstream ufo research producing nonsense results –which it still does.


The good thing is that it will be self-published and so no one can interfere in it. Whether the second report, Alien Entity Cases In The United Kingdom, will be included or published separately will remain to be seen.  This is going to be one bulky book.