The Rise of the Ufologist Debunker

 

I will mention no names as if you have been in Ufology long enough you will know who some of these people are.  These were the die hard "You CANNOT explain away these encounters!" and "We have physical evidence as well as highly credible witnesses" -those people.  

Suddenly, we find 25-30 years on they are explaining all UFO sightings and encounters as "psychological" or down to stupid people "misidentify" something that is an every day thing. Some, of course, do not move from their comfortable chairs and 'investigate' only using news clippings. 

Remember the SETI people and "possible alien signal" response: "It is not aliens. It is NEVER aliens!"?   With these -still calling themselves "Ufologists" to hide the fact that they are debunkers- people: "It is never UFOs!"   One of the biggest promoters of the UFO reality and Extraterrestrial Hypothesis still puts on the air of a respectable Ufologist but debunks everything -without referencing the fact that all of the encounters he investigated would be false or psychological including all the physical evidence he gathered.

Why have these people taken this stance? Let me give you a quote from Paul Garvani -Apothegms:

   "Man is Creation's masterpiece.  But who says so? Man!"

We have seen even people such a J. Allen Hynek pulled into the parallel  dimensions and other non explanations for UFOs and encounters and the main underlying reason is always the same: THEY have not landed and openly contacted us.

Well, as I have noted before, astronomers and others ignoring and refusing to investigate UFO landings and encounters does not disprove that they took place or were not real.  Do I need to pull the pin from a hand grenade and wait for it to explode to prove that it is a hand grenade?  Astronomers are trained in dogma and the few that are interested in UFOs will often hide away if an encounter case is put forward.  If you dismiss a signal from space immediately upon detecting it and declare "It is not alien. It is NEVER alien" then you suffer from FAR -Fear of Alien Reality.  "We have picked up signals in the past but so far none have proven to be from an intelligence so we'll study this one like all the rest" is more wordy but shows an open scientific mind not someone soiling their pants at the very thought.

With Ufologists there have been declarations of "imminent contact" in the 1950s, the 1960s, the 1970s and so on up to 2024. Ignoring the grifter claims, and ignoring the false "UFO waves" of the past and just looking at the reports on record we see species with an interest in Earthly biology -animal, plant and mineral- and really no interest in making open contact. It is this false belief that (for the sake of argument) if there are other alien civilisations out there then they would be drawn to Earth because....WE are here!

The unimportance of Earth in a galaxy with likely many millions of star systems is something that Ufologists and some humans are not willing to consider.  Why would Earth and humans be so important when we kill our own race by the thousands weekly, hunt and kill for no reason other than fun and pollute and destroy our environment and, if we are to believe credible witnesses including military men, in the past we have had no signs of aggression from UFOs or entities yet have fired weapons at them?

Yeah, sure, friendly old planet of self destructive, psychopaths -why wouldn't we be invited to join an inter-system federation of some sort. If I were an alien I would avoid the planet unless it was a routine stop off and sample gather visit while avoiding humans.

For the reason that ETs have not openly contacted (apparently encounters are NOT contacts?) Earth is an insult to these Ufologists or at best bad manners that have made Ufologists waste their time so they will become debunkers while still  claiming to be open minded.

Humans and Earth are very unlikely to be of high importance as we cannot even reach the Moon after 50 years.

Ufology is often very complicated.,

Tommy Dunford and Joan Amos: Lost British Researchers

 Long before the internet screwed things up I had a long correspondence with two people:

Tommy Dunford I had met at a UFO event in Wiltshire in the 1970s. He had an interest in EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) and other subjects but mainly UFOs. He had seen an enormous V shaped object one day -I still have the report he made out (his account was also published in Haunted Skies.

Although not agreeing on everything Tommy's out;look was that he would prove something that eventually I could not be negative on.  I ought to point out that we were on very friendly terms and there was no animosity since we both knew we were looking for answers and if he could point me in the direction of something possibly paranormal he did.

What happened to Tommy's extensive files I have no idea. We have lost far too much over the decades and as a founder of UFO Info Exchanged and did research on the Valentich disappearance, Krugersdorf CE3K case and other incidents).

dapper Tommy enjoying a day out late 1990s

Joan Amos I got in contact by pure chance when someone told me of a woman who used to buy a LOT of fish from a home delivery fishmonger. It turned out Joan was feeding two wild living lynx in her back garden in Devon.

Joan had some odd theories on the origins of the Cornish, UFOs and Big Cats that were very fringe but she was a lovely lady. Her knowledge on esoteric things was excellent and she was in correspondence with people such as FSRs Gordon Creighton and, regularly, Uri Geller. We politely agreed to disagree and remained friends.

Joan circa 1995

I have no idea what happened to Joan's archives and correspondence though I do know local 'researchers' ransacked her cottage while she was in hospital and stole many of her books.

Both gone onto their next adventure...?

Return of AOP Journal

  It all depends on time and whether there is interest but AOP Journal ended with volume 2 no. 5 and if you have read an issue you will know that it mainly deals with CE3K/AE reports but also other "anomalous" encounters.

I have the material so vol. 3 number 1 will be a trial issue to see if there is interest.

I'll Answer A Question

 

To answer a question.

I started out as a teenager looking into the paranormal circa 1974. Ever since then I have investigated and looked into paranormal phenomena and, yes, I have seen "shadow figures" and witnessed poltergeist activity and haunted areas.

By mistakenly picking up Brinsley Le Poer Trench's book The Flying Saucer Story in the library (and I could not just hand it back until the next day) circa 1974 I also became interested in UFOs and particularly entity reports. Yes, I have seen "UFOs" but what I strongly believe are a natural phenomena.

Since a youngster I was interested in nature and studying wildlife and one the crypto side I witness a 5-6 inch long, fawn hair coloured caterpillar which to this day I have been unable to identify. Along with family members, while in Germany, we all saw a black, shiny furred creature jump a huge distance into trees. Primate? No idea.  I was also the first to see (twice) raccoon dogs in Lippe before they were officially identified there.

Yes, I have also studied what some call cryptozoology (as a naturalist) since the 1970s and I have several books covering some of those aspects.

So, after decades, I am quite qualified to t6alk and write about these subjects and have files on them.

John Hanson In Conversation With Paul Sinclair

Other UFO Fragments

I have mentioned before the fragments allegedly from Berwyn Mts. The thinner material the late Ufologist Margaret Fry had analyzed and it could not, I was told, be identified.

A piece of the second fragment was also analysed and similar results with it described as being "very heavy for its size and possessing a metallic sheen".

This is the piece in question plus a previously not shown fragment (there is a third piece).

It was when someone asked about these fragments and I explained that I got the three "suggestions" that I donate to the -----

My own opinion on the fragments I have given before and will no longer comment on as my word apparently counts for nothing.

Not sure how good the photos will be as my old camera is not that good.

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