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Jacques Vallee: UFOs Are NOT Physically Real -But I Have A Fragment Of One!

I have been reposting this article for a very good reason; Vallee's "scientific study of UFOs" is being churned up again and yet, as this article notes, his research seemed to be a form of copy and paste of anything he heard that fitted his story and got him more book deals and lucrative lecture fees.   

The man is pushing "UAP" and debris from a crashed UFO when he has declared he does not believe UFOs are extraterrestrial. He is also co-author on a book he appears to have carried out no research for about a very quickly proven 1940s UFO crash hoax. And when you look at his "connections" in Ufology you see what is going on.

The latest claim is that Vallee was part of the United States Air force Project Blue Book investigation into UFOs. I've not seen Vallee claim this but others and I cannot help thinking they are confusing Vallee with the character from Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind movie!

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion and be heard including Vallee but they must also be open to scrutiny and their research (Vallee's is not peer reviewed) and claims examined.

 PHOTOGRAPH: CHRISTIE HEMM KLOK

After watching Erica Lukes chat (well, her guest did all the talking!) last night (see previous post) it was interesting to see yet another person querying Jacques Vallee. ImDB lists Vallee as also being an actor (I write nothing!). You go to Wikipedia and it states:

"Jacques Fabrice Vallée; born September 24, 1939) is an Internet pioneer, computer scientist, venture capitalist, author, ufologist and astronomer currently residing in San Francisco, California and Paris, France."

In case you are wondering what a venture capitalist or sometimes simply capitalist, it is a person who makes capital investments in companies in exchange for an equity stake. The venture capitalist is often expected to bring managerial and technical expertise, as well as capital, to their investments. A venture capital fund refers to a pooled investment vehicle (in the United States, often an LP or LLC) that primarily invests the financial capital of third-party investors in enterprises that are too risky for the standard capital markets or bank loans. These funds are typically managed by a venture capital firm, which often employs individuals with technology backgrounds (scientists, researchers), business training and/or deep industry experience

Basically, Vallee puts up his name to, say, Skinwalker Ranch, and he makes cash out of it. Everyone has to make a living and research cannot be carried out without finances (tell me about it).  Hey, Vallee has done pretty good out of thois since the 1960s. He's a good self publicist and a very poor researcher. Proven.

Let's look at the facts here. Vallee has a claim to fame that he was involved in tracking what we call the Black Knight satellite in the 1960s and he wrote up the data and presented it to his boss. His boss, for a reason that makes no sense.  Remember: the French have always been at the forefront of science which is why in the past you mention the Frenchj Academy of Sciences and people were in awe. The French, military, scientific and Space agency have all been at the forefront when it comes to UFOs as well and that goes back to the early 1950s. Yet, here we have Vallee stating his boss was not going to get invbolved in the UFO business and destroyed all the evidence (the report).  Here is where I have to call bull shit.

You are a scientist/researcher. You make notes, copies of any photographs or other materials such as maps, etc and you keep them in a raw data file. From that you have a Working Data File which is where you are defining and tidying up, referencing material. this leads to THE finished file. Every scientist, working researcher does this (and any with brains keep paper files because ifg the computer blows...).  But here, Vallee, this genius, had a report. Nothing else. No copies.  I first read about this in the early 1970s when Vallee's first two books (Challenge To Science and Anatomy of a Phenomenon) were must reading for Ufologists since, after all, he was French and a scientist! I even discussed the story with Franklyn Davin-Wilson who thought there had to be more to the story as he, too, wondered about "standard back up files".

We then had Vallee's various 'analyses' of UFO landings and Franklyn pointed out date discreprancies  three times for just one case. Hey, any researcher can miss one thing until it us pointed out and corrected. Vallee never correctsa the record.  Vallee is above the menial tasks.  When I was going through UFO books and publications looking to catalogue UFO sightings I found that, outright, Desmond Leslie and George Adamski (pardon the language) book The Flying Saucers Have Landed was so full of faked and badly reported incidents (reports of meteors became "disc shaped object" and so on). Then I found that the Vallee books were not trustworthy. Believe me I spent a couple weeks trying to double check everything because I had this stupid belief that Vallee as a scientist had -must have- researched everything. I really was jhust sitting there in disbelief and still thinking either I had misinterpreted (!) or others had reported inaccurately. In the end I realised that Vallee was a poor researcher.

Well known hoaxes have been included in his data base as well as in his books. Vallee was in a position as a "scientist" to simply check official archives or have someone check for him. Did he even lift a finger to check his data? No. Vallee does not have to do the menial. We have, thanks to his sham research still got reports of a UFO crash/occupant case in France in 1790 that never happened as well as the Quimper-Corentin UFO/occupant account -again fictitious (you can read Some Things Strange and Sinister or look for the accounts on this blog).

Others use Vallee's data for their own -Ted Phillips' Physical Trace Data Base (anyone seen it?)  that you can find online is very basic and full of known hoaxes, misidentifcations and includes Vallee data. As Franklyn onc e told me: "Bad Data In = Bad Data  Out".  

In fact, Vallee has the habit of citing the same cases and also telling us of a report (a story in fact since it has nothing that would make it a "report") "from a person I know" and we have to take his word for it that this actually happened -no real date or time and in some cases no accurate date. That is not the work of a scientific researcher but someone putting a book together to make money.

I know whgat readers are thinking: "Well why has no one else pointed this out?" They have. The problem is that Ufology, particularly in the United States where Hynek introduced Vallee, there is this attitude of bending the knee in reverance when the name "Jacques Vallee" is uttered. When someone writes online or states in a You Tube video: "He's a scientist and a cool Frenchy guy looking into UFOs!" it ought to  result in a hand out of vomit bags.

Here is another point...in fact it is a major point: 18th February, 2022, Vallee told Wired that "after six globe-trotting decades" he still doesn't know what UFOs are:

 https://www.wired.com/story/jacques-vallee-still-doesnt-know-what-ufos-are/   

What the actual **** has he been doing for sixty years?? If -if he partook of such a menial task- Vallee would have been abvle to easily categorise reports into a natural (unknown phenomenon -UNP) and what appear to be constructed craft (UFOBs).  He would have also had the thgird category of Insufficent Reports (over 50% of reports). This man, this genius, this pioneer after 60 years has not found that out?   What's he been doing -opening a camembert ranch full of paranormal activity??

For over four decades in fact, Vallee has been selling books, lecture tickets, getting air time on radio, podcasts and TV telling everyone that (apologies for the phrase) "flying saucers" are not real. Not physical. It's all multi-dimensionbal and intermixed with the same (made up) phenomenon that brought humanity fairy folk of all types. He thinks the idea that UFOs might be extra terrestrial "boring" and looks to the multi-dimensional theory.

Again, I ask wtf sort of scientist is Vallee?? The multiverse is a fantasy theory. There is no hard or even anecdotal evidence of any such thing. It is good for sci fi TV, movies and comic books but not when it comes to real science. And what sort of scientific mind thinks that actually finding evidence of extra terrestrial life visiting our planet is soboring thatb they have to sit back, sip their cammomile tea nad yawn.

Also, if it is all non-physical, not real then wtf is this piece of metal Vallee is selling people on having come from a flying saucer? Oh, not many people have seen this item and the fragment Vallee takes on tour is "a replica".

I corrected some of Vallee's work and sent it to Flying Saucer Review the journal of Ufology so that accurate data was out there. Charles Bowen felt that "readers might not accept that Dr Vallee was wrong" and Gordon Creighton.. well, Vallee's work basically backed up his own personal theories and when I spoke to him by phone he emphasised "Dr Vallee" and "Mr Hooper".  I tried similar with the MUFON Journal in the 1990s but word was passed along to a MUFON associate who was a friend that "We will leave Dr Vallee's research to speak for itself" (yeah, Vallee puts bums on lecture room seats).

There are others who have tried to point out faults in the data offered, it's what they call peer review in science -it does not exist in Ufology and never has- but all such 'attacks' on Vallee's credibility were stifled. We are talking polite, referenced articles here and not debunking attacks. Ufology is about money making, socialising and entertainment. All the "portals" opening and locations actually started wiuth the fictional   real life paranormal TV shows and then it got picked up by the Bigfoot fringers and now it has settled as a Ufology thing.

As I have stated before, Vallee's book Messengers of Deception could be easily retitled Vallee: Messenger of Deception.

Do not get me wrong on this; in the past I emailed and even wrote to Vallee to (politely) point out various problems in his data. I somewhat foolishly thought that as a scientist he might well respond. Not once. I ain't gonna earn him a dollar.

Now, if he ever wanted to respond to any of my criticisms then I would publish them, unedited and without comment to correct the record. I am willing to be proven wrong based on the  presentation of facts. That is how research works.

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Since 1947 it has been claimed that UFOs/flying saucers are evidence of aliens visiting the Earth.  Since the 1950s claims of encounters with landed craft and alien beings were talked about but not taken seriously.

In the 1960s the subject of UFO abduction was a "slow-burner" until the whole "Grey" abduction phenomenon and claims made by researchers such as Budd Hopkins, Prof. John Mack and Dr David Jacobs and Whitley Streiber.

But is there evidence to back up any of the claims -and what about those encountering Alien Entities but who were not abducted?

Are these people all hoaxers, psychotic or suffering from some other mental illness as some claim?

Are those people who were exposed by Ufologists against their wishes, people who wanted to report what happened and then just get back to their everyday lives -thrust into the media glare against their will?

And if US authorities were so interested that in one case at least they broke into the home of two abductees and this was later proven -why?

Why did a hard core of these people never want publicity or to make money from what happened to them?

Above all, why did a major UFO landing incident take place on a US Inbterstate road in front of a large number of observers (all willing to talk to investigators) never get investigated? If it were not for a radio presenter interviewing and taking notes we would know nothing of the case -it would be labelled "insubstantial".

James and Coral Lorensen -the Scopolamine Kids; using a very notorious "truth drug" on alleged UFO witnesses and selling stories to newspapers.  An investigator (a veteran) showing a witness images of "aliens" encountered in other cases before any memories were retrieved.  Worst of all, the constant "pissing competition" and breaches of trust between UFO investigators.

2017 is the time to assess the past evidence and look at the faults within Ufology.

Not everyone is going to be happy -debunkers or ufologists.

Praised by Dr Mark Rodheiger of the Centre for UFO Studies and, below, John Hanson of the Haunted Skies Project and Colonel Charles Halt the officer involved in the Rendlesham incident.

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A must read for those with a serious interest in UFOs Some of the contents:

 The Nottinghamshire UFO Crash of 1987…or 1988                                     
 The Llandrillo ‘Saucer’ and Berwyn Mountains ‘UFO’ Crash Retrieval   
 Strange Pennsylvania Entity Encounter                                                         
 UFO Abductees and Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome                               
 The UFO That Landed On A US Highway                                                     
 My Encounters With The Men In Black                                                         
 A Previously Un-noted Alien Entity Type                                               
       
 Early 20^th Century UK Close Encounters of the Third Kind                       
 Close Encounter with a Boggart                                                                      
 Some Odd and Unusual Cases                                                                         
 Rosa Lotti and the Happy Entities                                                                  
 The Strange Case of the Woollaton Gnomes and the Mince-pie Martians 
 What Happened on the Isle of Wight and at Felixstowe?                             
 The ‘Lost’ Belgian UFO Landing Case                                                        
  
 Strange Aliens from Outer Space?                                                              
 Encounter with Black Aliens and Landed UFO                                 

 Preliminary UK CE3K/Alien Entity Catalogue        

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The Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) says that we may have to wait many thousands of years before any signals sent gets a response if they are detected.

The real SETI may already have established the there is alien life –and it has been visiting Earth for at least 70 years.

Once the mass of reports of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and entity encounters are sifted there remains a strong core of cases that defy logical explanation and suggest that these encounters have resulted in physiological effects and post traumatic stress.

Terry Hooper-Scharf of the CE3K/AE Project has led research into these reports for over 40 years and in this work takes a look at rare or obscure reports as well as cataloguing encounters from Germany and Portugal and focuses in on correlations in the reports and how the Dandenong (Kelly Cahill) encounter could be the best case ever reported.

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Beyond UFO Contact i the fourth book in the groundbreaking series looking at reports of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Alien-Entity reports from around the world and reassessing these. In addition there is a look at the Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligences (SETI) and its relevance to the UFO phenomenon. 

contents list: 

Introduction: The Path of Counter-Actuality 

1. Dionisio Llanca: Truck Driver, UFO Abductee and Human Guinea Pig 

2. Aliens -What Can We Expect? 

3. The Moreland Incident 

4. It Is All Fake: Ufology Needs To Be Reassessed 

5. Warminster UFOs and Entity Reports 

6. Have Things Changed Since 1977? 

7. The Beausoleil Cas -Even Aliens Like Theatre 

8. The Pwca 

9. Contact...with the Vegetable Alien 

10. The Casitas Dam UFO Photograph and Entity 

11. The Crystal Lake Encounter 

12. The Humanoids at South Riverand the Luczkowich Encounter 

13. Harrison Bailey 

14. Sonny DesVerger 

15. The UFO "Borderline"-The Imjarvi Skiers 

16. Some Interesting Reports to Note 

17. Dead Aliens in Photographs 

18. Ufology, Government Cover Ups and Disclosure 

19. The Reports That You Might Not Want To Look Into 

20. Conil de la Frontera -a Credible Report? 

21. Eighteenth Century Aliens? 

22. Clearview Ranch 

23. The Pat McGuire Case 

24. Piero Fortunato Franzetta 

25. The Silbury Hill Encounter 

26. The Bridge Abduction 

27. The Bagshot Heath UFO Incident 

28. Lurkers and Alien Disinterest 

29. What If YOU See Aliens Land? 

30. So What Would YOU Do If You Encountered A Landed UFO?

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1973 –Year of the “Global UFO Wave” 

1973 –The “Year of the Humanoids” 

1973 –The year of the Pascagoula alien abduction claim 

1973 –Several witnesses observed two Unidentified Flying Objects: one temporarily landed on a US Interstate road while the other hovered close-by. An entity appeared from the landed object. A car driver approaching from the opposite direction stops, turns his/her car and races off. This is classed as a Major Incident in Ufology. 

1973 –a driver observes a landed UFO and entities and opens fire with his gun when he felt threatened. A High Strangeness account. 

Neither of these cases was investigated despite requests for local investigators to do so. Even in 2020 the idea of opening up either as a cold case was flatly Rejected by America’s ‘top UFO investigation’ group. 

Reports now probably lost to history. 

1973 –a year in which UFO reports from African-Americans were frowned upon and ignored. Nothing has changed.

Well, So It Was The Chinese All Along?

Well, I was right again.

I'm sure Elizondo will say "I never said they wuz aliens!"

LiveScience https://www.livescience.com/ufo-chinese-drones-report

Most UFOs are 'Chinese surveillance' drones and 'airborne clutter,' Pentagon officials reveal

By Brandon Specktor

 published 4 days ago

The U.S. government has officially started to explain some of the most infamous UFO encounters of the last decade, with China and weather balloons as top offenders.

Intelligence agencies in the U.S. have spent the last few years analyzing footage of hundreds of recent UFO encounters, and they want the American people to know: It's still not aliens.

According to several U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) officials who spoke anonymously to The New York Times last week, many recent sightings of UFOs — or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), as the government prefers to call them — are likely just observations of foreign surveillance operations or airborne clutter, such as weather balloons.

Several UAP incidents have been officially identified as "relatively ordinary" Chinese surveillance drones, the anonymous officials said. China has previously stolen plans for advanced U.S. fighter planes, and is interested in how the U.S. trains its pilots, the DoD officials added.

Other UAP sightings recorded by military aircraft, which appear to show airborne objects moving in seemingly physics-defying ways, are likely the results of optical illusions. This includes the infamous video known as "GOFAST," which was recorded by a U.S. Navy aircraft and leaked to the media in 2018. (The video, along with two other leaked films of military encounters with UAPs, was eventually declassified by the government.)

While the object in the GOFAST video appears to be zooming over the water at incomprehensible speeds, this is just an optical illusion created by the angle of the recording relative to the water, the DoD officials told The Times. In reality, the object is moving at no more than 30 mph (48 km/h), the officials added.

A classified UAP report delivered to Congress this week by the DoD's intelligence agencies likely includes the findings reported by The Times. The new report adds new details to cases described in a document that officials publicly released in June 2021, describing 144 alleged UAP incidents reported by U.S. government personnel between 2004 and 2021.

The 2021 report acknowledged that, due to a lack of high-quality data, most alleged UAP encounters could not be conclusively explained. However, the report offered several blanket explanations for UAP in general, including "technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity," as well as "airborne clutter" such as birds and weather balloons. 

Nowhere in the report were aliens or extraterrestrials mentioned — however, that did not stop alien conspiracy theories from arising, due in part to the government's general lack of transparency about UAP incidents.

Sue Gough, a DoD spokesperson, told The Times that the government was committed to sharing whatever UAP information it could without putting national security at risk. Government officials also tend to refrain from discussing UAP incidents publicly because there is simply not enough data to conclusively explain them, Gough added.

"In many cases, observed phenomena are classified as 'unidentified' simply because sensors were not able to collect enough information to make a positive attribution," Gough told The Times. "We are working to mitigate these shortfalls for the future and to ensure we have sufficient data for our analysis."

As the DoD continues its investigation into UAP sightings, NASA has also launched an independent UAP study team, which will operate from October 2022 to mid-2023. According to NASA, the team will focus on collecting and analyzing as much UAP data as possible, in order to develop new methods for identifying the unidentifiable objects in America's skies.

Yes, We Have Classic Encounter Cases In The UK -Ufologists Ignore Them

 If I had to look at how badly Ufology in the UK treats CE3K cases then, excluding the books by British "New Ufologists" who have really contributed nothing in almost 40 years, then there are reports such as:

the 1954 Jessie Roestenberg case which is the earliest recorded and credible observation and thanks to John Hanson and the Haunted Skies project we at least have more than was originally knopwn AND we have video footage of Mrs Roestenberg -which should be getting used in UFO documentaries.

Jessie Roestenberg (c)2022 John Hanson/HS Project

Hanson also interviewed the observers of the entity from Bradford, 1955?

There are a good few other reports that were basic book filler then dump the percipients. The Shamrock Cafe (1983) case -another that is basically ignored.

New Ufology decided from the outset that the whole business was to debunk but appear scientific and make various claims for why accounts were not real but psychological. We see cases where other percipients are ignored while one who has a history of possible "waking dreams" is concentrated on as that proves it was not real (yeah, those other percipients did not want to undergo hypnosis out of fear of what it might reveal so stuff them, right?).

The July, 1994 Silbury Hill CE3K has a numkber of elements that would see it tagged as High Strangeness yet what happened to Paul, Sonya and Rob that morning has only been covered to an extent in Andrew Collins' book Light Quest (2012).

Elsie Oakensen (c)2022 John Hanson/Haunted Skies

The 1978 Elsie Oakensen encounter which, although there was only one percipient there was independent back up of UFOs at the same time. Hanson has interviewed Oakensen and it is interesting that, again, the only thing Ufologists could come up with was that it was "a hoax" even though they can produce no evidence of this.

We have High Strangeness cases in the UK that are mainly unknown to people in Ufology in the UK let alone outside of it. This is why these cases have to be recorded and John Hanson has done a great deal to achieve this.

Perhaps it needs an independent documentary company to do a series of short films?

The (ever growing) Hooper Archives

 

In 50 years you gather a lot of books and files. Regular readers  will be familiar with the above CE3l/AE files (there are other CE3K files below that bottom row!).  Today, rather than goin g back and forth from my room to the "book room" (far too many books) I decided to put up plastic shelving and arrange all the CE3K/AE dedicated books or books with CE3K reports in them,

Here is a side shot.

Top shelf

 below: closer look for yhe nosies!

Below the shelf with the heavy stuff -note the Haunted Skies volumes which I highly recommend

Below the more intense reading

Below the more classic books on the subject

Below the books are the 150 plus files on various phenomena from lake and sea monsters. mystery hominids, The Great New England Darkness, Project Twinkle, Red Spray Events, Thunder Axes, Angel Hair, Falls of Gelatinous substances, alleged UFO crashes, UCOs (Unidentified Crashed Objects), the British Army, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force and UFOs, Attempted communications with UFOs, Animal Disturbance cases, Military intercept attempts and a whole bunch more

Whoever gets this lot when I pop my clogs has to take the lot as a job lot and guarantee that researchers, if ever interested, will get free access to it all.  

They will also need a van to move the lot as my ghost and paranormal as well as cryptozoological books are also thrown in!